tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post939117744712005771..comments2024-03-27T09:14:27.496+00:00Comments on All That Is Solid ...: Ideology in The Great British Bake OffPhilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-92015456730894529662015-10-13T14:28:45.289+01:002015-10-13T14:28:45.289+01:00Easy.
The confused person ate too many buns then ...Easy.<br /><br />The confused person ate too many buns then confused Mary Berry with Vera Lynn.Ferdinandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08449417038009763914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-40019799256341969722015-10-12T18:22:57.714+01:002015-10-12T18:22:57.714+01:00"How the bake off gets a comment about Himmle..."How the bake off gets a comment about Himmler and the Nazis is anyone's guess."<br /><br />That was more of a, while we are on the subject comment!<br /><br />I do think there is a bit of the good and bad Muslim narrative, much of it by the more liberal minded but articulated quite frequently by the Tories.<br /><br />Just like there is the good and bad citizen. The good citizen works hard and does the right thing. The bad citizen joins a union!BCFGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-47842861385732463992015-10-12T14:23:55.901+01:002015-10-12T14:23:55.901+01:00I have to say, Professor Arendt had very clinical ...I have to say, Professor Arendt had very clinical views of the Nazi programme of deportation and death and was showcased in a very bad light when as a Jewish refugee (pre-1939) from Germany to 'friendly France' and then on to the USA, she sat in on the trial of Eichman in 1960 as a reporter for a New York magazine. <br />He was hanged in what I believe is the only state execution in Israel.<br />Her views of the ability of ordinary people to commit evil deeds proved quite distressing to the Jewish state of Israel and those within it who were culpable in the terror.<br />She believed Eichman to be a bureaucrat but wouldn't allow the blame to lie solely with him and lost many lifelong friends due to this view.<br />I raise this because her further views of mass migration due to conflicts is at odds with a Liberal state that offers asylum and refuge but champions individual statehood and borders but then denies sanctuary and puts up border controls.<br />Her views are extremely challenging in todays EU debates in/out and are the best I've seen to date.<br />Gary Elsbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-49614393329902623172015-10-12T11:26:30.283+01:002015-10-12T11:26:30.283+01:00How the bake off gets a comment about Himmler and ...How the bake off gets a comment about Himmler and the Nazis is anyone's guess.<br />I watched the series and from the outset the betting industry stopped taking bets due to heavy money being placed on one person. A BBC inquiry is taking place to identify if it was a member of the production crew who broke 'the law' of confidentiality.<br />The money was indeed rumoured to be placed on non white but most were saying the other finalist.<br /><br />Nadiya certainly wasn't the runaway winner at any stage in the competition with the other (white) finalist getting star baker three weeks on the trot. The final was very evenly marked at every round but Nadiya got the best critique on the first bake. hence, it was now hers to lose and she just didn't as she was given very good views from then on. As did the others, but she didn't falter.<br /><br />Downton Abbey? I watch this and I won't hear a single bad word about the aristocracy as they are seen to be the most Liberal and generous people on earth. Bring the back, I say!<br /><br />'Good and bad Jews' and 'all bad' according to Himmler.<br />What does Hannah Arendt say? Gary Elsbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-31923449828830961542015-10-12T07:13:52.145+01:002015-10-12T07:13:52.145+01:00I don't watch it for the same reason I don'...I don't watch it for the same reason I don't watch strictly come dancing or downtown abbey....<br /><br />I followed the media furore however. Presumably this Muslim young lady must have been a damn good baker to get on the programme in the first place?! However, I know at least one person who declined to watch the finale because "everyone knows the Muslim is going to win" - the implication being, because she was "the Muslim", and there wasn't much of a contest. In this sense Bcfg is right... Presumably it is when there is the assumption of a lack of exceptionalism - as there would have been for a black contestant, for example, that we can say Muslims are treated like anyone else. <br /><br />There is a sense of the "elite" trying to shoe-horn representatives of minorities into the limelight, in order to underpin their multicultural agenda (i wonder if there are any studies matching population size to media visibility), which has gone on for decades of course - the blowback is of course that it amplifies the sense among the majority they are being manipulated and arguably (now a tipping point of sorts has been reached) fans the flames of resentment and anti-immigrant feeling. As you say Phil, the sense "they have already lost", "rubbing their noses in it", even. Expect this to manifest itself in further ant-EU and immigrant feeling. I suppose the dictum "you can't fool all the people all of the time" applies. Speedynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-63932643344926956642015-10-11T11:31:14.643+01:002015-10-11T11:31:14.643+01:00I also think these sort of programmes feed into th...I also think these sort of programmes feed into the good Muslim and bad Muslim narrative (the Nazi's had the idea of the bad and good Jew before Himmler declared all Jews were bad!). The good Muslims live, well, very much like us, who bake cakes and do lots of safe and innocent things and the bad Muslims take girls and turn them into sex slaves.<br /><br />The good conform and obey and enjoy life, and the more they conform and obey the more they enjoy life, the bad think too much and question things and the more miserable they become.BCFGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-54273342007765810962015-10-09T09:54:28.819+01:002015-10-09T09:54:28.819+01:00This is interesting because apart from outliers li...This is interesting because apart from outliers like Platell and Delingtwat, I'm more used to this sort of criticism coming from the left. If you think about it the left are more "political" than the right, Corbynistas are more bothered than Cameroons, many of whom seem as if they'd get in the kitchen at the drop of a hat, running the country be damned. This I think underpins labour's problem with swing voters, as so many activists get impatient with people in Cannock or Staffordshire Moorlands who care more for frivolities like baking than "politics". Yes, I know the argument that politics concerns them, and of course it does, but what if they're too comfortable to care.<br /><br />I am reminded of this legendary statement from Billy Bragg<br />http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/free-radical-why-itrsquos-showtime-for-billy-bragg-6217799.html<br /><br />His argument is true in its own way but the poor use escapism just as much as the rich, having more to escape from, and I dare say many will be tuning in who don't bake but who rather than looking for the Corbynite millennium just want to forget life for an hour.<br /><br />Myself, I don't watch it because it distracts from more important activities like commenting on blogs and listening to heavy metal :)asquithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246701347539264295noreply@blogger.com