tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post7404171717220376579..comments2024-03-29T09:14:53.583+00:00Comments on All That Is Solid ...: At Jeremy Corbyn's Birmingham RallyPhilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-48459072648279752542015-08-05T20:33:08.983+01:002015-08-05T20:33:08.983+01:00I went to the meeting in Birmingham on Sunday 2nd ...I went to the meeting in Birmingham on Sunday 2nd July, where Jeremy Corbyn was both speaking and answering questions... Almost everything Jeremy said was greeted by loud applause and even a standing ovation. He really seems to have his finger on the pulse of the NationAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10483211441616820593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-25969212017008532982015-08-05T19:11:05.755+01:002015-08-05T19:11:05.755+01:00I hope you're not campaigning for any of the o...I hope you're not campaigning for any of the other candidates, because your condescension is unlikely to win anyone many votes.Igor Belanovnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-942418250896850762015-08-05T16:38:15.031+01:002015-08-05T16:38:15.031+01:00Is it really worth trying to seriously engage with...Is it really worth trying to seriously engage with people who think that printing more money (quantative easing) to pay for all these promised goodies is plausible? Is it any different to arguing with Tom Cruise about the likelihood that we are all "thetans"? <br /><br />Are there any Corbyn voters who truly believe his Labour could win the next election? No, don't answer - I ask myself the same question about people who believe the earth really was created in six days. Speedynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-24699246513071334792015-08-05T12:21:08.871+01:002015-08-05T12:21:08.871+01:00The sure sign that you are losing the argument is ...The sure sign that you are losing the argument is when you encourage the other side of madness.<br /><br />What puzzles me is who will benefit from the preservation of Labour as an 'electoral force' if it was assured (and it is highly debatable) by voting for the establishment candidates. This is basically the same group of people that threw over the poor and supported Osborne's welfare proposals, and whose best strategy for appeasing UKIP voters has been to suggest suing the French government over the Calais crisis. But anyone who disagrees with these positions is compared to a cult member.Igor Belanovnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-27850159827267746452015-08-05T11:53:10.373+01:002015-08-05T11:53:10.373+01:00The question I ask is do I believe him. Does he be...The question I ask is do I believe him. Does he believe in what he says, right or wrong. Is it best to support someone who will attempt to do what he says he will do?<br /><br />The reason Jeremy attracts such scatter-gun venom is that his opponents believe him totally.<br />If his opponents believe him then I should also.<br />Jeremy isn't Cameron-lite and this disturbs Cameron-heavies.<br />Good.<br /><br />Vote Jeremy.Gary Elsbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-26345422991061587732015-08-05T07:13:46.930+01:002015-08-05T07:13:46.930+01:00"it was a good job no-one was too concerned w..."it was a good job no-one was too concerned with fire safety regulations!" Or indeed the real world. The trouble with cults is that the more preposterous their claims, and the more they are challenged by reality, the more their adherents cling on to them, hence why apparently intelligent people become Scientologists, etc. Cult Corbym is well along this road already, quite a phenomenon. One problem is of course that many of the members, who are middle class, have little to lose by the destruction of Labour as an electoral force. Other people will pay for their principals. In this sense they are all Tom Cruises, not the rather wan underlings who hawk "personality tests" on the high street to pay for their next psychological fix. Speedynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-59167362913958051422015-08-04T21:03:30.899+01:002015-08-04T21:03:30.899+01:00So even the most sympathetic observer reveals that...So even the most sympathetic observer reveals that besides talking about them nicely _- there is in fact a lovely article on the Guardian today about the migrant church - he has no policy with regards to the migrants at Calais. And believes that we should reach peace through dialogue with ISIS. So long as they're throwing gays off buildings - to take my own sectional interest here - I'd be happy to see them bombed to kingdom come. Sometiimes you just have to recognise you have an enemy. Involving Iran *sounds* like a left wing position because it is against US and UK policy (although the nuclear deal is surely as Robert Fisk analysed it, the sign of the US about to change horses). What it does not mean is peace, but an open proxy war between Iran and Saudi, embittered by the Sunni/Shia divide. If he stuck to socailism in one country, it might be respectable, but I fear we'd find him arguing that Putin's Russia was justified in invading Georgia, Crimea and Ukraine as a bastion against US led fascism. Could not vote for him.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-12495789758686933132015-08-04T20:38:07.249+01:002015-08-04T20:38:07.249+01:00Good luck Jeremy!Good luck Jeremy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com