tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post5804221238662636390..comments2024-03-27T09:14:27.496+00:00Comments on All That Is Solid ...: Bloggers! Your Posties Need You!Philhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-50985798881948428682010-12-13T13:34:19.773+00:002010-12-13T13:34:19.773+00:00Phil
Thanks for blogging about the Keep the Post P...Phil<br />Thanks for blogging about the Keep the Post Public campaign.<br />We have linked back to you from the CWU website.<br />We will link to other bloggers who support the campaign.<br />Details - http://www.cwu.org/campaign-blog.htmlCWUhttp://www.cwu.org/home/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-68209642079414985042010-12-13T13:33:58.933+00:002010-12-13T13:33:58.933+00:00I just heard a good one from Andrew Neill on The D...I just heard a good one from Andrew Neill on The Daily Politics. Asked to define the Big Society he replied, "Its like The Big Issue, except nobody buys it!"Boffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08157650969929097569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-90187770752414689932010-12-12T15:00:59.671+00:002010-12-12T15:00:59.671+00:00Phil,
Absolutely agree we need to stress the oppo...Phil,<br /><br />Absolutely agree we need to stress the opposition to privatisation, and to make the points about it still being profitable and so on. Cable has spoken about the potential for PO workers being able to set up a Co-op, but we know that will be highly restricted, probably more like a Partnership of the John Lewis variety than a real workers co-op, and they would hem it in in the same way that their proposals for the Big Society do with the proposals for Co-ops and Voluntary organisations to take over varioius lcoal functions i.e. they would want to keep control of the purse strings and sub-contract work, thereby extracting all the Surplus Value themselves.<br /><br />But, the Phone Co-op shows that its possible to establish effective Co-ops in what is an increasingly important area. What we really need is to link up workers in BT with those in the PO towards developing a workers alternative. As I wrote a year ago the last time the PO was under threat, we need to be looking to a strategy of Occupations of Post Offices, and sorting offices.<br /><br />All this seems to be asking a bit much at the minute because a lot of these tactics have not been used for 30 years, but the Vestas and Visteon Occupations shows that it can quickly be re-learned, and the University Occupations show the idea can quickly spread. Its sharp because it immediately challenges both Capitalist property relations, and Capital itself. I'd really like to see the University Occupations following the French example and opening the Universities up to everyone with mass free lectures and so on. The same is true with the Post Office, an occupation that continued to function as say UCS did, would mean that immediately the question of ownership would be posed, as well as in the short term meaning people were still in their jobs, but to succeed it would need to be spread. That's why its important to discuss the need to include Parcels and telecoms as immediately associated industries and activities.Boffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08157650969929097569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-23304138705432341552010-12-12T13:36:24.008+00:002010-12-12T13:36:24.008+00:00It would be interesting to see what sector(s) of t...It would be interesting to see what sector(s) of the business Royal Mail profit is coming from.<br /><br />I'd like to see the company develop as a cooperative. But at the moment, there is a stark choice. The imperfect status quo vs privatisation, and I'd go with the former every time.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-76550920795806507942010-12-12T12:30:31.995+00:002010-12-12T12:30:31.995+00:00I'm not convinced this is true in the longer t...I'm not convinced this is true in the longer term. Mail as such is in decline, because of E-Mail, and direct electronic communications, payments etc. between firms and between firms and consumers. That process can only increase. Yes, more things are being bought online, but that means more parcel delivery, not more mail as such, and the economics and logistics of parcel delivery are different from those of the Mail.<br /><br />The real problem is that the Post Office, which included Telecoms was broken up. For the Post Office to survive as a long term profitable business it needs to be an integrated business that includes Mail, Telecommunications and Parcel Delivery. That was as Mail declines it can continue to be cross subsidised from within the business from Parcels and Telecoms.<br /><br />So, in part you can see why the Liberal-Tories want to sell off what is currently a profitable business, because they are not going to renationalise and reintegrate Telecoms into it, and the Parcel Monopoly has already gone. Besides, which this is an ideological driven Government, more concerned about pushing through its ideology than whether its immediate actions are beneficial to the economy or not. As the Commons Select Committee dug out recently, for instance, its likely that when the sell the Bank shares, which do not appear on the Government Books, they will pull in billions of pounds. Yet, this is not taken into consideration in relation to how this money could be used to reduce the deficit substantially. In fact, as David Laws has said according to Joey Jones of Sky News, even during the Coalition negotiations, the Liberals beleived that even the £6 billion of Cuts were a big mistake, and he admitted that the deficit had been "hyped up", that it was not a big deal.<br /><br />But, this is the problem with relying on the Capitalist State. Whether its on Student Fees, Pensions, Public Sector wages or whatever, the State can choose its time to reverse previous promises and commitments, and workers are then left fighting a rearguard action. Even if you win at one point, the State can simply wait a while until it sees its opportunity and strike again, until workers are eventually worn down. That's why its better for workers to build their own independent alternatives.<br /><br />Just look at the 40% job growth at the Mondragon Co-ops for example, and their movement into high-tech industries. Look at the attacks on our pensions compared with the average pension for workers at Mondragon of around £13,000 a year, and yet it still has income twice what it pays out in Benefits.Boffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08157650969929097569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-55971138743664396672010-12-12T11:30:42.202+00:002010-12-12T11:30:42.202+00:00Indeed, as you can see from the CWU snippet Royal ...Indeed, as you can see from the CWU snippet Royal Mail is still *massively profitable*.<br /><br />If the Tories and LibDems had any sort of nous about them, you would think keeping on a state-owned company like Royal Mail would be useful as an income stream. After all we're forever being told how cash strapped UK plc is. And yet they're willing to sell it off - on the cheap no doubt - for a one off stimulus. <br /><br />Incredible, but unsurprising.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-63302313701332006292010-12-12T10:59:19.215+00:002010-12-12T10:59:19.215+00:00It's the same deal as it was with Rover..
It...It's the same deal as it was with Rover.. <br /><br />It's presented as a 'structural' issue and the public are told there is no other choice apart from closure/ privitisation..<br /><br />But, the reality is it's a case of poor management, or deliberate vandalism.<br /><br />The facts are in both cases different; cars are still manufactured in the UK by foreign multinational firms - who have no 'emotional' ties to the UK - so their choiuce of location is purely business based.<br /><br />As for Royal Mail was doing very, very well right up into the 90s, what's changed since then? Don't blame the internet for less mail being sent when we're buying more online than ever.Neil80https://www.blogger.com/profile/07327090565101437836noreply@blogger.com