tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post5693541836154958421..comments2024-03-27T09:14:27.496+00:00Comments on All That Is Solid ...: Immaterial Labour and Intangible CapitalPhilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-6955212589984578832018-11-02T08:32:24.986+00:002018-11-02T08:32:24.986+00:00DFTM it's a bit ironic for someone who changes...DFTM it's a bit ironic for someone who changes their handle so much to accuse me of wearing a mask. You flatter me, though - I am as ignorant of right-wing credo as I am left. I have no agenda but my half-baked opinions.Sadly, I would not be comfortable in the straight jacket of any one ideology. <br /><br />Admittedly I didn't make the obsequies to anti-capitalism etc that the Central Committee in your revolutionary republic of one requires, I was thinking more about the changing nature of a future (yes, capitalist) economy. I struggle to see how in your socialist utopia however, the work requirement would actually change, unless your fantasy involves turning back the clock to heavy industry, canals built by slave labour, and killing fields (I can actually hear the sound of your lips salivating). <br /><br />The problem you identify is more to do with social class in the UK, which existed long before capitalism. Now that's something that could be mitigated against but all the political parties, given that most are led or shaped by ex private school boys, will not do a thing. For that you would need a revolution. Speedynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-49870194234548544202018-11-02T01:40:33.648+00:002018-11-02T01:40:33.648+00:00'The same goes for those ‘less able to adapt’,...'The same goes for those ‘less able to adapt’, they might be less able to adapt because they are from a disadvantaged background, they didn’t have the same opportunities as those from wealthier families etc etc. Speedy assumes less than able to adapt is some neutral and natural given and once again lets the mask slip and reveals the right wing ideology behind his every statement. Even as he pretends to champion the working class his prejudices are barely ever hidden. A complete fraud on every level.'<br /><br />I don't think anyone is gulled by Speedy's 'love' for the working class. That sounds like something a committed eugenicist would say about people he pretended to care about, or a scientist looking at culture on a petri dish. He's like the person whose answer to better wages for cleaners, carers, nurses, binmen and many other essential jobs is 'look for a higher paying job!' People should be paid a living wage whatever they do. If politicians decided to 'down tools' for a month, you'd hardly notice the difference. If cleaners, carers, nurses, binmen and other people laid down their tools, society would come to a standstill. MPs and politicians have become like the nobility and squires of Olde Englande, in that we could ask what are their actual function, as opposed to what they are supposed to be.Tmbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-86896499358676194232018-11-01T17:43:24.802+00:002018-11-01T17:43:24.802+00:00The products that get produced are the result of c...The products that get produced are the result of capitalist relations of production. In order to change what gets produced, or at least the motives behind this production, the capitalist system has to be abolished.<br /><br />The same goes for those ‘less able to adapt’, they might be less able to adapt because they are from a disadvantaged background, they didn’t have the same opportunities as those from wealthier families etc etc. Speedy assumes less than able to adapt is some neutral and natural given and once again lets the mask slip and reveals the right wing ideology behind his every statement. Even as he pretends to champion the working class his prejudices are barely ever hidden. A complete fraud on every level.<br /><br />I work in IT and as every year passes I become more and more irrelevant because the actual applications can now do everything I used to do! So in fact the technological developments are reducing the intellectual requirements as much as they increase it. Intangible goods are more related to artistic flair than intelligence, for example those with a flair for design earn the big bucks.<br /><br />My mum worked in ‘care’ as a nurse. They dealt with multiple patients with multiple conditions. She worked nights, so many nights on and so many off. She once said to me that one way private care made money was to run with minimum stock, so just the number of pillows required but no more.<br /><br />What in the name of Florence Nightingale is immaterial about ‘care’?<br />DFTMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-15589185729060768342018-11-01T09:03:30.128+00:002018-11-01T09:03:30.128+00:00And the entire financial services industry?
In a...And the entire financial services industry? <br /><br />In a sense, with respect to arguments re the death of manual labour and the rise of robots, the increase in an ageing population (and therefore need for a "care economy") does offer some hope for those less able to adapt to the intellectual requirements of the intangible economy. Speedynoreply@blogger.com