tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post5526356724841568762..comments2024-03-27T09:14:27.496+00:00Comments on All That Is Solid ...: Facing Up to the CHUK UpPhilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-20937908884728081412019-07-17T17:19:28.637+01:002019-07-17T17:19:28.637+01:00Its notable that the 60 scab Labour Peers who have...Its notable that the 60 scab Labour Peers who have taken to the bosses press to attack Corbyn and the LP, did so, whilst using Labour's official Rose logo, even though they were not writing in any kind of official Labour capacity. That shows the tack that is being prepared for the next right wing coup, as I set out above, of seizing the party logo, official name for elections, machinery and resources.<br /><br />Perhaps they could ask Jon Lansman how to do that effectively as its what he did with Momentum.Boffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08157650969929097569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-32450901406747657072019-07-17T00:16:17.285+01:002019-07-17T00:16:17.285+01:00This is a line from the Wikipedia entry for "...This is a line from the Wikipedia entry for "our Gav":<br /><br />"In June 2019, he left Change UK (The Independent Group) to sit as an independent MP. In July 2019, Shuker was a founding member of a loser grouping of MPs called The Independents"<br /><br />I suspect that "loser" was meant to be "looser" but is just as accurate.Kenneth Billisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-45238655813169091852019-07-16T09:45:49.343+01:002019-07-16T09:45:49.343+01:00You seem to have forgotten one obvious alternative...You seem to have forgotten one obvious alternative. Faced with trigger ballots in which all of these right-wing Labourites, along with the soft-lefts should get deselected - though on past performance of Momentum et al, its not clear there will be a sufficient push to do so - they will have an incentive to elave, not now for the always doomed Chukups, but for the now revitalised Liberals, who are also continuing to attract Tories also facing deselection, and opposed to a No Deal Brexit, if not any Brexit.<br /><br />Even a moderately sizeable defection of Tories, and Labour MP's to the Liberals in the Autumn, together with their growing alliance with the Greens, SNP and Plaid to stop Brexit could given them a decisive voice in parliament, and make them the only credible alternative in elections to the Tories for the majority of the population that wants to stop Brexit.<br /><br />With the anti-Semitism weapon being used to whip up yet another coup attempt against Corbyn, and with Watson as the obvious alternative Leader in open combat against the official Party leadership it seems fairly obvious that the next coup will not be a vain attempt to unseat Corbyn in a leadership election, but to seize control of the PLP, Labour name and so on, and then make a formal coalition or merger with the Liberals purely for electoral purposes.<br /><br />Given the division of support shown by the polls even on the most favourable for Labour that would be devastating as votes got shared between the Tories and this new National Government Party/Alliance.<br /><br />The only hope Labour has of preventing that is to be the hardest of hard Remain supporting parties so that it builds momentum behind itself on that basis, but time is running out for it to have a credible position on that, before others seize that ground. <br /><br />Boffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08157650969929097569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-66919211672125341762019-07-16T09:33:16.607+01:002019-07-16T09:33:16.607+01:00"... in the hope they can survive the trigger..."... in the hope they can survive the trigger ballots." Hmmm. I'm probably missing something here, but most of the PLP are behaving in a way that would suggest that they aren't, in the least, afraid of deselection. They tear Labour apart every day on our TV screens and seem confident that, by posing with a few gormless members holding leaflets back in their constituencies, they'll see any local threat off.Shai Masothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452453462950704943noreply@blogger.com