tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post4686135562723129478..comments2024-03-27T09:14:27.496+00:00Comments on All That Is Solid ...: Debunking the Labour Party Coup FantasyPhilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-29580933038081761092016-01-11T17:20:07.779+00:002016-01-11T17:20:07.779+00:00I have pretty much taken it for granted that the P...I have pretty much taken it for granted that the PLP want Corbyn to fail, want him to go (ditto the unfree media) and are simply waiting for the right moment to pounce. I am not sure coup is the right word or treachery but whatever it is I wouldn't call it a fantasy.<br /><br />What is required is a series of committees where PLP members have to appear before members and answer questions relating to party loyalty, party policies etc. Call it a Stalinist show trial if you must or something akin to HUAC but the Labour party needs it. I like Corbyn's ideas and I like his progressive beliefs but I think his nice guy, let everyone have their opinion shtick will ultimately be his undoing.<br /><br />If politics were about broad churches you wouldn't need political parties. I guess another legacy of Blairism is that every party is now a broad church to the point where you can hardly tell them apart but broad has narrowed to be almost nothing, other than some variant of right wing Thatcherite economics! Hopefully if Corbyn is successful, and given the direction of the economy I don't see why by 2020 he can't be, we will enter an era of clear divides between the parties.BCFGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-77604175359010219592016-01-11T12:09:47.508+00:002016-01-11T12:09:47.508+00:00Haines isn't just calling for a coup against C...Haines isn't just calling for a coup against Corbyn, he's also calling for a profoundly reactionary coup that establishes the Labour PLP as the single power centre within the Labour Party and the wider movement. Okay, I'm a Corbyn sympathizer and a bit biased = but this idea of an entirely sovereign PLP seems a really good proposal for destroying party, movement and all. <br /><br />BTW Laura 'Scoop' Kuenssberg has just tweeted with the 'breaking news' of another resignation from the Shadow Cabinet. Nothing quite helps someone's credibility like carrying on (and on and on) once you've been rumbled.tonyhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-30158524196048759222016-01-11T00:29:56.831+00:002016-01-11T00:29:56.831+00:00He's not trying to make something of the fact ...He's not trying to make something of the fact that Corbyn didn't win a *first-round* victory among full members? Thin stuff if so. As I said at the time<br /><br /><i>if the vote had been restricted to full members of the party Corbyn would still have won, probably on the second round. (He only needed 1,010 transfers, and Liz Kendall had over 13,000 first-round votes.) Strictly speaking, £3 voters didn’t affect the result; we weren’t much more than spectators. Which is why I’ve joined the party.</i><br /><br />The last bit isn't strictly relevant, except that I bet lots of other people have had the same thought and done the same thing.Philhttp://gapingsilence.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-31337119321488371552016-01-10T21:33:29.843+00:002016-01-10T21:33:29.843+00:00"All piss and wind" could stand for pret..."All piss and wind" could stand for pretty much all the output of the Labour right since last May. It shows the depths of the neoliberal malaise that they are reduced to roping in an old bruiser like Haines with his antique invective.David Timoneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03568348438980023320noreply@blogger.com