tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post4303476928522466671..comments2024-03-27T09:14:27.496+00:00Comments on All That Is Solid ...: Why Marx Was RightPhilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-52863426165296057542014-03-23T17:23:54.369+00:002014-03-23T17:23:54.369+00:00My apologies Speedy, I must have got you mixed up ...My apologies Speedy, I must have got you mixed up with howie. It would appear that I agree with both you and Karl. There so many more people who have an opinion on Marx but have rarely read ANY of his stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUaVeixiVLc#t=30Dialectician1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-26134283496702545682014-03-22T15:29:58.943+00:002014-03-22T15:29:58.943+00:00"Unlike Speedy, above, but like Marx, I do no..."Unlike Speedy, above, but like Marx, I do not think there is a pragmatic solution to capitalism"<br /><br />That's what i said.Speedynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-44570831430397848972014-03-21T16:48:48.801+00:002014-03-21T16:48:48.801+00:00Unlearning the history of capitalism
http://www....Unlearning the history of capitalism<br /> <br />http://www.pieria.co.uk/articles/unlearning_the_history_of_capitalismRoberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18097624792336619525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-42062736270999559582014-03-20T22:07:46.231+00:002014-03-20T22:07:46.231+00:00Phil I was going to respond in a little more depth...Phil I was going to respond in a little more depth but got carried away so blogged it instead.<br /><br />http://howiescorner.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/why-marx-was-wrong.html<br /><br />You are cordially invited to reply!howard fullerhttp://howiescorner.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-28783561577015950992014-03-20T18:10:26.575+00:002014-03-20T18:10:26.575+00:00Yes, I agree, Tel's book is very good. He get...Yes, I agree, Tel's book is very good. He gets scolded occasionally for being evasive and flippant http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/feb/27/culture-death-god-review-terry-eagleton but his honest Marxism has been consistent throughout those barren years of post modernism. Unlike Speedy, above, but like Marx, I do not think there is a pragmatic solution to capitalism. There is only one choice: barbarism or communism. I guess most of us agency junkies are fatally attracted to crash and burn barbarism. Marx was an Enlightenment thinker who put faith in humans to work out better ways to do things. The problem is trying to fix something that irredeemably bust. Marx was right! Dialectician1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-14001656966464081002014-03-20T07:28:43.094+00:002014-03-20T07:28:43.094+00:00Doesn't Marxism work as analysis but fail as s...Doesn't Marxism work as analysis but fail as solution? <br /><br />Post-industrial society is too fragmented to support a coherent workers movement (or identification)?<br /><br />Doesn't everyone strive to be bourgeois now?<br /><br />This is why it seems so hopeless. <br /><br />I don't want to sound like a religious nut, but it seems to me that only something like Christianity, which separates the person from the (human) process and therefore shapes their behaviour within society, has a hope for creating a fairer world. <br /><br />Communists of course had "faith" too - they were utopians just like Christians, and Marx provides them with a system to impose on this world. <br /><br />Perhaps this is also why some on the hard-left have affection for Islamism - they see the faith they have "lost" and an alternative hegemony. <br /><br />But I see Christianity, for all its many faults (and indeed Catholicism - Liberation Theology) as intrinsically more progressive and ultimately more flexible. And I'm no Catholic. <br /><br />Yes - to atheists the problem is the necessity of "belief" in certain concepts they find absurd, but an acceptance, if only in terms of symbolism, is necessary a-priori in order for the approach to be effective, otherwise (as you infer) why sacrifice oneself for utopia? I once read a priest said: "we must act in a way that if there was no truth to our belief would be absurd". <br /><br />I realise this may be an unbridgeable gap, but my point is - being pragmatic with capitalism and having no utopian goal will not work. The monster will just gobble you up - you have to have a belief system that, for example, takes pride in poverty in order to challenge it. Speedynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-83142388593528321192014-03-19T22:56:19.487+00:002014-03-19T22:56:19.487+00:00Howie fella, this book is for you.Howie fella, this book is for you.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-51689294260414710062014-03-19T22:18:05.662+00:002014-03-19T22:18:05.662+00:00Marx was wrong.
Marxism should be left behind as ...Marx was wrong.<br /><br />Marxism should be left behind as a very bloody failed experiment.howard fullerhttp://howiescorner.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-51309046589744210462014-03-19T13:13:02.074+00:002014-03-19T13:13:02.074+00:00Marx was right, but humans are not scientific. How...Marx was right, but humans are not scientific. However I think Marxism is the only realistic option moving forward.<br />http://thinkingaboot.blogspot.ca/2014/03/connecting-dots-paints-picture-of-great.htmlStevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14162783936999869984noreply@blogger.com