tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post4055547517680089702..comments2024-03-27T09:14:27.496+00:00Comments on All That Is Solid ...: What to do After the ReferendumPhilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-29420536871799482932016-06-24T20:58:31.016+01:002016-06-24T20:58:31.016+01:00Thinking, those who were ignored by Labour in Scot...Thinking, those who were ignored by Labour in Scotland taught them a hard and maybe fatal lesson. The English working class and a large section of the Scottish Working Class (Most under 30's in my family) chose Brexit. Not racist, quite simple they were getting nothing out of EU membership. Good chance the UK, and if Scotland exits, England will regain a strong manufacturing base with inward Chinese and Indian investment, both countries have made it clear they want a free trade agreement and European base. jim mcleannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-74097546044872587442016-06-24T16:56:39.643+01:002016-06-24T16:56:39.643+01:00It's the lowest day I can remember with regard...It's the lowest day I can remember with regard to my feelings for the UK. I feel like after 9/11, only, in a sense, more helpless. I have always known the people of my country were like this - i have warned against it in these comments often enough - but now our dirty family secret has been exposed for the whole world to see. Apart from obvious concerns about the economic impact, I feel a deep sense of humiliation. The ugly truth is out - a brutish, xenophobic and stupid tribe who thoroughly deserve the full contempt we shall receive. Speedynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-31033469622020809662016-06-24T15:36:37.253+01:002016-06-24T15:36:37.253+01:00Sheesh, this is like the worst getting dumped feel...Sheesh, this is like the worst getting dumped feeling ever. <br /><br />Even worse than in that cafe in Bristol when Lisa said she didn't want to see me again. So yeah, avoiding anything that reminds me of the whole affair is going to be essential, plus reconnecting with real friends and going for long walks in the countryside is going to be essential. <br /><br />Maybe I will give us ONE LAST CHANCE. But if SOMETHING MAJOR doesn't change in the next couple of years, I'm going out with that nice girl from the Plaid. And THEN you'll be sorry. MikeBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-38613096674575067472016-06-24T13:52:43.709+01:002016-06-24T13:52:43.709+01:00I think there is also an onus also on the left (pa...I think there is also an onus also on the left (particularly the far left) to become a more pleasant place to be…if we are to challenge this nasty shift to the right…<br /><br />That would mean:<br /><br />1)Stop banging on about dead Russians – no one apart from a tiny, tiny percentage of the population cares about them and none of them were very nice…<br />2)Stop talking like you are addressing the comitern and issuing diktats – try listening and engaging instead.<br />3)Get your head round the fact that people see the world in very different ways (note: The Theses on Feuerbach do not explain human consciousness – you also need to understand evolutionary biology, neuroscience and psychology). Explore ways of finding agreement on important issues whilst acknowledging that different people might arrive at the same consensus for different reasons. <br />4)When someone expresses an opinion, treat it with sincerity, even if you disagree with it. Chances are that is what they actually think and they are not secretly working for Zionists or the CIA or the Illuminati. Stop attributing motives to people which can’t be evidenced and engage with what they are saying instead. <br />5)Embrace universal human rights – challenge our own government and its associations by all means – but don’t stop there. Criticism only gains credibility by universality. <br />6)Left-wing politics isn’t about you or your “identity” – it’s about finding practical solutions that embolden the worst off and most marginalised sections of society. It needs positive and innovative suggestions for change – not just virtuous opposition. <br />Alex Rossnoreply@blogger.com