tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post3702202789402808230..comments2024-03-29T09:14:53.583+00:00Comments on All That Is Solid ...: Previewing the Copeland By-ElectionPhilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-8642722018665200432017-01-16T12:46:20.924+00:002017-01-16T12:46:20.924+00:00As stated on one forum "Is being mistakenly r...As stated on one forum "Is being mistakenly reported as an All Woman Shortlist when it is in fact a shortlist that is all women."jim mcleannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-56512049505585174282017-01-16T10:48:17.131+00:002017-01-16T10:48:17.131+00:00long list.
Barbara Cannon – Allerdale borough coun...long list.<br />Barbara Cannon – Allerdale borough councillor who lives in Workington.<br /><br />Tricia Clarke – CWU activist who took part in the Labour selection for Carlisle before the 2010 election.<br /><br />Thomas Docherty – former Dunfermline and West Fife MP who grew up in Whitehaven.<br /><br />Rachel Holliday – founder of Calderwood House hostel and named Cumbria Woman of the Year 2015.<br /><br />Graham Kendall – Keswick councillor and advisor to NHS Partners Network.<br /><br />Tim Knowles – Cumbria county councillor who lives in Frizington.<br /><br />David Southward – Cumbria county councillor who lives in Beckermet and holds the economic development portfolio.<br /><br />Gillian Troughton – Cumbria county councillor who lives in Whitehaven<br /><br />Short List<br />Rachel Holliday<br />Gillian Troughton<br />Barbara Cannon<br /><br />good quality from what I can find on googlejim mcleannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-66302608455049921072016-12-24T16:11:38.163+00:002016-12-24T16:11:38.163+00:00Of course Reed thinks that, Badger, but he can'...Of course Reed thinks that, Badger, but he can't be *too* open about expressing it for obvious reasons. Assuming the Labour candidate isn't an out and out Corbynista (and that is pretty unlikely I think) the likelihood is that he will make a show of supporting them.<br /><br />Good chance that both the Tories and UKIP will stick with their GE candidates, which makes Labour's choice all the more intriguing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-70718130236433917162016-12-24T11:02:09.719+00:002016-12-24T11:02:09.719+00:00Phil, many thanks for an excellent article that fi...Phil, many thanks for an excellent article that filled the massive gaps in my knowledge. another thing that strikes me is that Mr Reed, as well as getting a far more secure job, would not be devastated if the seat were lost and Corbyn got the blame.Badgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-85233037712871336262016-12-23T19:14:21.064+00:002016-12-23T19:14:21.064+00:00There's a lot of concern in the area about the...There's a lot of concern in the area about the impact of nuclear power, though - people have had to live with the risks for the last 60 years. Problem is that employment-wise there is very little alternative. Barrow is one of the most deprived areas in the country and about a fifth of the constituency overall is classified as living in the most deprived parts of England. There is a real need for employment - and especially alternatives to Sellafield. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-49157179811526095862016-12-23T14:22:16.511+00:002016-12-23T14:22:16.511+00:00Yes, only realised that in retrospection. Ooops!Yes, only realised that in retrospection. Ooops!Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-42828226771130984722016-12-23T11:13:35.149+00:002016-12-23T11:13:35.149+00:00Have to say having noticed it, that your comment t...Have to say having noticed it, that your comment that Copeland will be split between three seats "none of which are that favourable to Labour" is wrong - the proposed Workington/Whitehaven seat will easily be their best prospect in the redrawn Cumbria (and indeed, their only reasonably reliable seat)<br /><br />The point is, as stated above, Reed knew that his chances of getting it were not good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-41537826750312619602016-12-22T22:58:12.778+00:002016-12-22T22:58:12.778+00:00The NHS and cuts to services in the new West Cumbe...The NHS and cuts to services in the new West Cumberland Hospital is a big issue locally. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-19652973282862315132016-12-22T22:19:49.361+00:002016-12-22T22:19:49.361+00:00Well, indeed so jim. Not to mention that Reed was ...Well, indeed so jim. Not to mention that Reed was likely to lose out to Workington MP Sue Hayman in the redrawn Workington/Whitehaven seat (there is no doubt his post-GE behaviour cost him some local support)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-45731726875159931852016-12-22T17:07:24.230+00:002016-12-22T17:07:24.230+00:00Oh, the constituency will disappear by 2020, it ma...Oh, the constituency will disappear by 2020, it makes sense now.jim mcleannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-5427996572729990872016-12-22T13:08:44.036+00:002016-12-22T13:08:44.036+00:00A better survey of things than some of the lazily ...A better survey of things than some of the lazily predictable HOT TAKES in the MSM, but there are still a few points worth making.<br /><br />Firstly, the "last lost in 1931" meme ignores that the present seat that came in for the 2010GE is less favourable for Labour than was previously the case - the Tories would certainly have won it in the 1980s. Of course, a Labour loss now would still be a terrible result, and a decent local candidate should avoid that prospect. NO PARACHUTES!<br /><br />Secondly, you maybe underestimate how much of a long term electoral desert for the LibDems Copeland is - the equivalent of a seat like Cornwall N for Labour. There is absolutely no possibility of the yellows "piling up votes" in any circumstances - even amongst the "remain" voting minority, the sort of ardent Euro-evangelists found in some areas (eg Richmond) are thin on the ground. Labour certainly has in this case more to fear from losing votes on its other flank to UKIP (even if their nationwide "threat" to Labour is much exaggerated by many) and I expect the coming campaign to reflect that.<br /><br />Lastly, the proposed new nuclear development is far from universally popular - Greens have made limited headway locally in some areas on the back of it.<br /><br />Let battle commence :) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-55389801914313788972016-12-22T10:01:11.477+00:002016-12-22T10:01:11.477+00:00It will be a local candidate heavily pro nuclear i...It will be a local candidate heavily pro nuclear in a classic company town, which means the spotlight will be on JC and Barry Gardiner on this one issue Walsiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14287542481842382567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-3699182205092180512016-12-22T09:39:13.307+00:002016-12-22T09:39:13.307+00:00The local Labour seem positive, Labours Nuclear En...The local Labour seem positive, Labours Nuclear Energy policy is not too much at odds, strong Labour Brexit area and if UKIP WC voters return to the fold they should hold on, if I were Copeland Labour I would hammer UKIP as no point to its existence, the LibDems hopefully will vote anti tory.jim mcleannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-61068068503525552052016-12-22T09:34:07.057+00:002016-12-22T09:34:07.057+00:00Labour should:
1. Set out a clear demand for rem...Labour should:<br /><br />1. Set out a clear demand for remaining in a reformed EU. Reformed not as Cameron et al proposed, but reformed in workers' interests on the basis of building EU wide workers organisations and solidarity.<br /><br />2. Argue vociferously for workers ownership and control of the nuclear industry. We are not Luddites. We want to develop technology as far as possible to be used in workers interests to produce things more cheaply, and to lessen the load on labour. But, we do not trust capital, and more specifically capitalists to do that safely. By putting the nuclear industry under workers ownership and control it puts workers in charge of how that technology is used and developed so that it is done so so as to maintain jobs in the industry and to protect the health an safety of the workers and of the local community and environment. We should demand that the state provide the same huge subsidies to workers in running the industry on that basis as the state already gives to capital be it in the banks, nuclear and power industry or to train companies.<br /><br />3. Labour should make a clear commitment to protect and improve workers jobs in shipbuilding and aerospace industries that currently are heavily dependent on arms production. We should set out proposals for the need to produce a large amount of ships and planes etc. to be used for real security, for example, life boats and other sea rescue equipment. We should argue for a massive expansion of real defence based upon the development of a democratically controlled civilian militia similar to that in Switzerland, which would require lots of such equipment. The need for such equipment in Cumbria is well known given its recent problems with flooding etc.Boffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08157650969929097569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-18054800642628079302016-12-22T08:53:22.080+00:002016-12-22T08:53:22.080+00:00This should be plain sailing for any half decent o...This should be plain sailing for any half decent opposition. That there is even the prospect of losing this seat shows just how lamentably bad we are.<br /><br />If we get the right candidate (pro nuclear is essential) we should hold on. But what a state we are in.<br /><br />That Reed is leaving should be no cause for celebration. MP's quitting is a very bad sign. That there is talk of more doing the same is a sure fire indication that the PLP remain deeply unhappy and have no faith or trust in the leadership.<br /><br />Steve Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-20245328040827923472016-12-22T00:52:36.276+00:002016-12-22T00:52:36.276+00:00Odds on a GMB full timer or councillor being the c...Odds on a GMB full timer or councillor being the choice?jim mcleannoreply@blogger.com