tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post2355921972299751303..comments2024-03-29T09:14:53.583+00:00Comments on All That Is Solid ...: Ten Predictions for 2010Philhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-7141138831955954252010-01-05T14:03:52.871+00:002010-01-05T14:03:52.871+00:00Aye. I'm in Weds and Fri (not sure about Thurs...Aye. I'm in Weds and Fri (not sure about Thurs yet) so if you and/or Bro G are about give me a bell.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-74081477007259314912010-01-05T13:59:02.785+00:002010-01-05T13:59:02.785+00:00I am back now yes. Tea sometime soon?I am back now yes. Tea sometime soon?Sister Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-70394780212120651022010-01-03T20:21:23.274+00:002010-01-03T20:21:23.274+00:00But then again if the council is up on the same da...But then again if the council is up on the same day as the general election, the increased turn out could help Labour's chances in the ward. Not that Stoke Central need excuses not to campaign ...<br /><br />Btw, are you now back?Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-39276406322134057422010-01-03T20:00:10.017+00:002010-01-03T20:00:10.017+00:00I totally agree, however if the local Labour Party...I totally agree, however if the local Labour Party won't do any campaigning in the Abbey then the chances of Labour winning the seat are reduced. Doesn't matter what the current candidates leaflet is like if no one will deliver it, no one in the Abbey will see it.Sister Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-73376418979918558782010-01-03T19:51:51.541+00:002010-01-03T19:51:51.541+00:00I don't know about the Abbey. Whoever Labour s...I don't know about the Abbey. Whoever Labour stand will be an improvement over the previous candidate - I've spoken to a few Abbey folk in recent years who've been turned off by his idiotic and incoherent leaflets. I don't think many people will give a toss about internal Labour politics.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-21970058836430710142010-01-02T20:06:17.764+00:002010-01-02T20:06:17.764+00:00I am not too sure about what will happen with the ...I am not too sure about what will happen with the BNP in Stoke Central. I'm pretty sure that because of all the issues with the candidate selection for the Abbey, the local Labour party are not going to be wanting to campaign there. This is a great shame because really they should all be working to make sure that Labour picks up this seat, even though they (the local party) didn't get the candidate that they wanted.<br /><br />I think you are correct about number 1, i've been saying it for a while now, Tory fear is most definately setting in. Even Cameron can see it hence why he appealed to the Lib Dems.<br /><br />My only hope if Labour do win is that they return to what they once stood for and I think this is a possible especially as the members have been calling for this for years and they will lose what little membership they have if they continue down this road.Sister Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-50531240046301019472010-01-02T18:44:54.027+00:002010-01-02T18:44:54.027+00:00Asquith, the BNP will get a sound thrashing in Sto...Asquith, the BNP will get a sound thrashing in Stoke Central. Because their national resources will be concentrated in Griffin's fight with Hodge their vote will suffer. The departure of Alby Walker hasn't helped either. Also, if the general election happens on the same day of the locals the BNP are screwed - they won't win/successfully defend a single seat because of the Labour vote turn out. If not it's anyone's guess.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-59246542234219480912010-01-02T17:12:31.362+00:002010-01-02T17:12:31.362+00:00Farage and UKIP are up against a tory vote of 57% ...Farage and UKIP are up against a tory vote of 57% - and with BNP and Greens also standing, i think, dont think he will win <br /><br />Griffin will nearly do it in BarkingJimPagenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-69022082243884771932010-01-02T14:54:16.491+00:002010-01-02T14:54:16.491+00:00On predictions I think that there are enough stupi...On predictions I think that there are enough stupid people to vote for the Tories and they will scrape in - New Labour might find "social democracy" too late.<br /><br />And I hope Caroline Lucas and Salma Yacoob do get in, don't like Gorgeous George much so indifferent to him being elected (though I do respect his anti-imperalist stance) but would be excited if Salma and Caroline got in - two great women and activists.<br /><br />So it would be good for the left to suport getting good activists in but that probably won't happen.Ms Chiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01488172624713157756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-71320204626845852342010-01-01T21:54:26.047+00:002010-01-01T21:54:26.047+00:00Do you think the BNP have much of a chance in Sjok...Do you think the BNP have much of a chance in Sjoke Central? Obviously I hope they get soundly thrashed- I actually don't see them winning. It'd be interesting to see how they spin Lucas & Farage winning their target seats but them losing.<br /><br />I think I will go & vote for David Jack- I find his comments on Pits & Pots (where I don't encounter you- unless you become "Pooter" after a very stressful evening & a few or very many ciders to wind down, where are you at?) absolutely hilarious, & if Walley wins anyway I might as well vote for the candidate that lets me say it wasn't my fault because I didn't support any of them. Being as my vote never counts for anything whatsoever.<br /><br />Plus I think there is a fair bit to be said for the Liberal Democrats- I am not one of them, or one of anyone, but I presumably like them more than you do, eh?<br /><br />Because of my experience of only having tits to vote for (I like Walley* but I think the reason I don't vote for her is obvious- she will support NuLab when push comes to shove) I have arrived at the view that we're better off working for whatever it is we support outside electoral politics. <br /><br />In my view this is part of why Obama has stalled. His supporters just haven't got the hunger, they expected miracles & are jaded & don't like the thought of the hard work that is called for. Because these Republican 'stains are out there lobbying 24/7, the right-whingers never stop, but too many Democrats are just too pro-government & too prone to tantrums. Whereas I myself am critically supportive of Obama. <br /><br />Is it any predictions you're making for the blogosphere? <br /><br />*She is very good at responding to letters- has done a respectable amount of work on environmental causes too. I might even consider voting for her if Labour were in opposition. But you cannot ask it of me after 12 years of Blair & Brown, seriously.asquithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246701347539264295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-57571780927534863142010-01-01T19:21:47.694+00:002010-01-01T19:21:47.694+00:00Hi Phil
yes same email,
cheersHi Phil<br /><br />yes same email,<br /><br />cheersDerek Wallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05462511891409913195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-30301267163279941672010-01-01T17:33:15.445+00:002010-01-01T17:33:15.445+00:00Phil, be careful of what sectarians tell you - in ...Phil, be careful of what sectarians tell you - in Scotland when there are important things to do socialists speak and work together - fighting fascism, Palestian solidarity, defending and supporting asylum seekers, trade union work etc. Don't believe the hype. I don't see any left unity in England is any more further forward and please remember youse lot are 10 times the size of us. Scotland's population is half the size of London.<br /><br />When it comes to nonsense then you don't need unity.Ms Chiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01488172624713157756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-18522419081022089062010-01-01T16:39:00.512+00:002010-01-01T16:39:00.512+00:00TGR, I don't think things will come to that. I...TGR, I don't think things will come to that. I can't see anyone having a pop at Brown - in my experience he's more a figure of ridicule than hate. <br /><br />Derek - I'll email you. Are you at the same address?<br /><br />Ms Chief, as horribly sectarian the left outside Scotland is at least it's talking to each other - I have heard a rumour that the SWP have been talking to son-of-No2EU, for instance. Where Scotland is concerned the division will rumble on and on, long after the Sheridan case is history. Short of something from the outside knocking heads together (such as the (unlikely) formation of a substantial left alternative), that is how it will stay. Happy new year!Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-43179995238070947142010-01-01T14:57:33.523+00:002010-01-01T14:57:33.523+00:00Come on Phil BC - "Whatever happens it will r...Come on Phil BC - "Whatever happens it will rub added venom into the festering sore that is the Scottish left" that's not nice talking about your comrades in the Scottish CWI like that. <br /><br />Joking aside since its New Year and my New Year's Resolution is not to be bitter - I think it is rich for someone from the "left" in England calling the Scottish Left a "festering sore" - read your predictions above - the left in England is as split a sunder as the left in Scotland and whether you agree or not with the Scottish situation there is a reason for it - what is England's reason?<br /><br />What ever happens in 2010 hopefully there will be some resolution - good or bad.Ms Chiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01488172624713157756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-4434799552750539902010-01-01T14:12:40.065+00:002010-01-01T14:12:40.065+00:00Phil: My predictions in the post on 3E were a majo...Phil: My predictions in the post on 3E were a majority of 50-100 for the Tories and Caroline Lucas losing narrowly. I was thinking some kind of blog-related non-monetary bet rather than cash (I'm hardly rolling in it at the moment either). No idea how that would really work though.Owenhttp://thethirdestate.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-14575012198223861132009-12-31T22:14:24.165+00:002009-12-31T22:14:24.165+00:00Derek - Brighton is quite a long way from Stoke, I...Derek - Brighton is quite a long way from Stoke, I'm sure Phil has worthy campaigns nearer to home that he can build.<br /><br />Phil: I'd add to the predictions that Charles Clarke will lose his seat to Green Adrian Ramsay in Norwich South. It's a pretty safe bet at the moment, particularly as Clarke is trying his damnedest to alienate existing Labour supporters.Jim Jeppshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17410387006098326671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-64396649844885924042009-12-31T20:26:23.557+00:002009-12-31T20:26:23.557+00:00Hi Phil,
I will put you down for Hall Green then,...Hi Phil,<br /><br />I will put you down for Hall Green then, mail me! Green Left and Birmingham GP will be doing some work on the weekend of 30th January<br /><br />Brighton is very easy, get on a train, get off at Brighton cross the street to the eco centre and we will give you some leaflets, <br /><br />She will win if people put the work in....and lovely though Stoke is, send me details of how people can support Dave Nellist or an SP candidate with at least a shout of getting elected and I will let other know.Derek Wallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05462511891409913195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-26767992339849565692009-12-31T20:13:16.649+00:002009-12-31T20:13:16.649+00:00Not convinced by 1 or 10, but I suspect you're...Not convinced by 1 or 10, but I suspect you're right about everything in between. In fact I think 10 may be slightly more plausible than 1 - I simply can't see the Tories failing to get elected. It's true there's no shift to the right in popular consciousness - people's ideas are the same as several years ago on most issues - but the disillusionment with Labour just runs too deep.luna17https://www.blogger.com/profile/03754650933188634442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-25826295423232399642009-12-31T20:07:59.877+00:002009-12-31T20:07:59.877+00:00Great minds Owen, great minds.
As I'm skint I...Great minds Owen, great minds.<br /><br />As I'm skint I can only bet my reputation as a sage. I would say Labour get back in with a 10-20 seat majority and Caroline with a majority of less than 1,000. Your thoughts?<br /><br />Derek, Salma's a possibility - though it depends on how hard the SP will be working me. Should we go through with standing in Stoke Central I doubt I'll see outside the constituency for a fair few months!Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-11785655951769040452009-12-31T19:21:57.869+00:002009-12-31T19:21:57.869+00:00any chance of you doing some election work for Car...any chance of you doing some election work for Caroline and Salma, make history real through your own agency.Derek Wallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05462511891409913195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-48688922570865725182009-12-31T19:19:15.570+00:002009-12-31T19:19:15.570+00:00Hah, you totally ripped off my post from last Sund...Hah, you totally ripped off my post from last Sunday :P (Or you just happened to have the same idea as me, which is probably more likely.) Care to take a bet on the electoral prospects of Caroline Lucas or the Labour Party?Owenhttp://thethirdestate.netnoreply@blogger.com