tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post15856785935338914..comments2024-03-27T09:14:27.496+00:00Comments on All That Is Solid ...: Malevolence or Ineptitude?Philhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-33230832333620837892018-12-12T08:07:56.052+00:002018-12-12T08:07:56.052+00:00One main reason that Labour should have called a n...One main reason that Labour should have called a no-confidence vote in the government is precisely to expose the duplicity of the Anna Soubry's etc. who would vote for May's dysfunctional government! This is not a question of sending batallions continually over the top to die, no Labour politician is going to die by putting up a principled objection to an already collapsing, and chaotic Tory government, for goodness sake. They might, however, die of shame, if they can't even motivate themselves to present even that level of opposition to such a right-wing Tory government.<br /><br />Far from it leading to the death of Labour politicians, by exposing the unreliable nature of the Soubry's et al, it firms up the actual opposition to May, whilst driving a further wedge between the Soubry's with one less place to hide, and May et al.<br /><br />As Marx says, in Value, Price and Profit, trades unions and wage struggles can never be an answer to workers problems over and above what is dictated by the demand and supply of labour-power, but unless workers raise themselves at least to the minimum of organising themselves into such unions and undertaking such struggles, they certainly cannot expect to even reach that minimum level, let alone to put themselves in a position to wage a struggle for Socialism.<br /><br />If Labour cannot even raise itself to the level of pressurising a collapsing Tory government, of mobilising the anti-Tory forces, and driving a wedge into the Tory ranks in the process, then it has no hope of undertaking anything more ambitious. To run away from the fight, simply on the basis of the bourgeois parliamentarist notion that all that counts is whether a vote is won or lost, reflects a total abandonment of any sense of socialist principle, but under current conditions, also of socialist tactics and strategy. It smacks of bourgeois formalism that fails to recognise that the balance of forces is dynamic and changes in the course of battle.<br /><br />But, for such a dynamic to kick, for it to be possible to raise your forces and draw others in behind you, its first necessary to show a willingness to fight, and an ability to lead. Unfortunately, the Labour leadership has continually shown an absence of both qualities in spades over the last three years.Boffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08157650969929097569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-84240497540860578122018-12-12T01:51:26.407+00:002018-12-12T01:51:26.407+00:00You could have mentioned the Greens, who have full...You could have mentioned the Greens, who have fully backed this stuff. Maybe just a coincidence that they are desperately searching for any continued relevance post-Corbyn.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-33071117262574882902018-12-11T22:59:25.780+00:002018-12-11T22:59:25.780+00:00The trouble with your analysis is that we are fast...The trouble with your analysis is that we are fast approaching the point of no return - it's no longer OK to do nothing because you can't win your preferred course. If a confidence vote won't run, then you need to find an alternative course of action: but we have 14 weeks, and if the matter isn't settled soon, the damage done will be incalculable. Time to walk the walk: even a failed no confidence vote would be progress, as if they can't win it now they never will - so we need to know that and move to an alternative course of action.Ian Gibsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-57909680631807996492018-12-11T18:54:44.980+00:002018-12-11T18:54:44.980+00:00That is almost the new centrist party right there,...That is almost the new centrist party right there, shy of Chuka and Yvette Cooper of course.<br /><br />Maybe Yvette will convene an emergency meeting to discuss the watergate style (no less) revelations that the foreign office (no less) and army (no less) have been spending millions (of our money no less) in a coordinated campaign against Corbyn (leader of the official opposition no less) and his allies.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com