tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post989297284613748104..comments2024-03-27T09:14:27.496+00:00Comments on All That Is Solid ...: Never Gonna Give You UpPhilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-1250793448678738122021-05-26T21:40:26.654+01:002021-05-26T21:40:26.654+01:00I am dismayed at how the labour party has struggle...I am dismayed at how the labour party has struggled after Corbyn was evicted. I have considered resigning, but that's what they new regime seem to want, so I won't. Still voting for trasformational politics, not helping the nay sayers. Gradually disengaged unfortunately.JedBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18204559394414329842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-37347811362768368672021-05-26T18:48:05.911+01:002021-05-26T18:48:05.911+01:00«To them Corbyn was a joke until the very moment t...«<i>To them Corbyn was a joke until the very moment the floodgates opened and the mass member surge almost fatally threatened the only power they truly care about: their control of the Labour Party.</i>»<br /><br />Some of them may be indeed committed to their benefices in the still large Labour patronage system, but I think that most are simply going along with the "party line" to protect their careers, to prove their zeal; but most importantly for the leaders of the campaign against Corbyn my guess is that he fatally threatened what they really care about: thatcherism as the only options for voters, the "There Is No Alternative" commandment given by M. Thatcher and by Tony Blair himself, my usual quote:<br /><br />“<i><a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tony-blair-says-he-wouldn-t-want-left-wing-labour-party-win-election-10406928.html" rel="nofollow">Tony Blair says he wouldn’t want a left-wing Labour party to win an election.</a></i>”<br /><br />For the thatcherites the Conservatives and the LibDems are respected fellow thatcherites with which they have a difference of primarily managerial approach and secondarily as to the intensity and timing of thatcherite policies, with the "trots" of the Labour wing of New Labour the difference is one of fundamental goals, with the latter being a potential threat the the continuation of the "Thatcher revolution". P. Mandelson relatedly stated long ago:<br /><br />“<i>Globalisation punishes hard any country that tries to run its economy by ignoring the realities of the market or prudent public finances. In this strictly narrow sense, and <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2002/jun/10/labour.uk1" rel="nofollow">in the urgent need to remove rigidities and incorporate flexibility in capital, product and labour markets, we are all Thatcherites now</a>.</i>"Blissexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-77989752703169614502021-05-26T10:16:00.400+01:002021-05-26T10:16:00.400+01:00I think a problem people like Coyle and Jes Philli...I think a problem people like Coyle and Jes Phillips and Wes Streeting face is how to deal with the loss of attention. With Corbyn as leader they needed a secretary to deal with their invitations on to Newsnight, Peston, Andrew Neil and to write articles for the Mail and Express. They began to believe in their greatness as political analysts and see themselves as the authentic voice of the voter able to articulate their commonsense.<br />Corbyn goes and the invitation dry up. Surely they were not just used. They cannot just be ordinary looking people with no particular authority or insights. Why not try their greatest hits - Corbyn and anti-semitism. Maybe they will get a tour round the studios again and be seen again as characters with sharp turns of phrase. Glory and pride can then return and ambition be rekindled.McIntoshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-16658946547514603072021-05-26T02:42:01.302+01:002021-05-26T02:42:01.302+01:00A party serious about government? Absolutely yes.
...A party serious about government? Absolutely yes.<br /><br />A Tory one.dermothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10814535373795945000noreply@blogger.com