tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post8086114880310176735..comments2024-03-19T09:00:56.265+00:00Comments on All That Is Solid ...: Conference: Stopping the BNP in North StaffsPhilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-36681891939619271972009-02-25T20:02:00.000+00:002009-02-25T20:02:00.000+00:00Phil,I tried to email you from your mail link in y...Phil,<BR/><BR/>I tried to email you from your mail link in your profile, but it came back undeliverable. Could you mail me for a discussion on this.Boffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08157650969929097569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-34353671960025050442009-02-23T14:56:00.000+00:002009-02-23T14:56:00.000+00:00Just pure ad hominem, and for very obvious purpose...Just pure ad hominem, and for very obvious purposes Phil. Very transparent.<BR/><BR/>Simple question = simple answer - nothing complicated here.<BR/><BR/>You haven't answered this question at all and neither did brother_f.<BR/><BR/>You said pretty much the same as brother_f, that the unions have along history of doing it (which is not a mandate) and that they 'use politics to influence workplace practice' - still no mandate. But even if you accepted that, what justification - what mandate - do they have for interfering in democratic elections involving legal political parties? What business is that of workplace representation scheme?<BR/><BR/>But as I say, your motivations here are very obvious.The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-20974251905210990702009-02-23T12:38:00.000+00:002009-02-23T12:38:00.000+00:00Troll on my friend.Troll on my friend.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-57787744879845647762009-02-23T00:33:00.000+00:002009-02-23T00:33:00.000+00:00I see, no answer then.I see, no answer then.The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-85155967164610336792009-02-20T09:59:00.000+00:002009-02-20T09:59:00.000+00:00Read the thread where we discussed trade unionism ...Read the thread where we discussed trade unionism and then think about and <I>understand</I> what was said. Then you might just arrive at an answer.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-28081232099862061572009-02-20T03:23:00.000+00:002009-02-20T03:23:00.000+00:00brother f,These are very simple questions - and on...brother f,<BR/><BR/>These are very simple questions - and ones that you quite obviously cannot answer.<BR/><BR/>To say they have a history of doing it so its OK is ludicrous - What MANDATE do they have to do it? What business is it of theirs? Who are they to decide who people can and cannot vote for? <BR/><BR/>And you people have the front to call yourselves 'anti-fascists'!! Don't make me laugh.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Phil,<BR/><BR/>I very much want an answer to these questions - thats why I asked them. <BR/><BR/>You didn't answer these questions at all Phil so it is ridiculous to allude to some cryptic zen type meaning to what you have said - these are very simple questions, can you answer them or not?<BR/><BR/>But of course, in the absence of any substance you can always wheel out the insults and ad hominem instead can you not?The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-62245428501706524992009-02-19T23:27:00.000+00:002009-02-19T23:27:00.000+00:00Sentinel, I suggest you read our last exchange on ...Sentinel, I suggest you read our last exchange on trade unionism and try and <I>understand</I> what I wrote. Then you'll have answers to your questions.<BR/><BR/>But you and I know you're not really looking for an answer, don't we? Troll on my friend, troll on.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-82320620645330544602009-02-19T23:17:00.000+00:002009-02-19T23:17:00.000+00:00@ the sentinel- get a life. Even the most brain de...@ the sentinel- get a life. Even the most brain dead right winger knows that unions have a history of opposing the far right and racism.brother_fhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05803089508868966596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-66043953979492674702009-02-19T19:06:00.000+00:002009-02-19T19:06:00.000+00:00brother f,1) What business is this of your uinion?...brother f,<BR/><BR/>1) What business is this of your uinion?<BR/><BR/>2) What mandate does your union have to interfere in matters outside of workplace issues?<BR/><BR/>3) What mandate would your union have to take it upon itself to effectively decide which legal political parties are acceptable for peoples votes?<BR/><BR/>4) If your unions members wanted to vote for the BNP or become members would they be expelled or discriminated against?<BR/><BR/>5) If so, what mandate - or indeed legal right - would your union have to interfere in the freedom of speech and the freedom of political activity of its members?The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-67132276000690886062009-02-19T16:05:00.000+00:002009-02-19T16:05:00.000+00:00I meant, don't talk about communities but class!I meant, don't talk about communities but class!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-56257797705503187492009-02-19T16:03:00.000+00:002009-02-19T16:03:00.000+00:00My thoughts (from experience, not armchair musings...My thoughts (from experience, not armchair musings - stop talking less about 'communities' and more about class.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-76175421861887956082009-02-19T12:57:00.000+00:002009-02-19T12:57:00.000+00:00just informed my union branch about this, should b...just informed my union branch about this, should be interesting.brother_fhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05803089508868966596noreply@blogger.com