tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post6276706531709726651..comments2024-03-29T09:14:53.583+00:00Comments on All That Is Solid ...: Why Labour Doesn't Need Jim MessinaPhilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-26798435342875314732013-08-11T22:32:01.216+01:002013-08-11T22:32:01.216+01:00Gary, it's pointless you dropping your little ...Gary, it's pointless you dropping your little allusions on this blog as I'm but a rank-and-file member. And one that doesn't care about your ravings.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-16367563490623315272013-08-11T21:10:03.693+01:002013-08-11T21:10:03.693+01:00YOU MUST BE F****** JOKING!
4 reporters are worki...YOU MUST BE F****** JOKING!<br /><br />4 reporters are working on the story.it's me, it's me Gary!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-44111769162727154822013-08-10T15:56:24.780+01:002013-08-10T15:56:24.780+01:00You gather correctly, Gary, seeing as I posted abo...You gather correctly, Gary, seeing as I posted about it a while ago. <br /><br />I look forward to whatever you're alluding to with interest. Unfortunately for you, the immense majority of people in this city will pay your bombshell no heed at all.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-52806521075646071012013-08-09T13:18:05.091+01:002013-08-09T13:18:05.091+01:00I am employed, ran a business, was a candidate for...I am employed, ran a business, was a candidate for Labour a number of times, campaigned every year, sat on the Parliamentary panel, an EU delegate and the CLP secretary.<br /><br />Nothing got in my way.<br /><br />I gather you have landed a job.<br /><br />Know it was me yet?<br />The best is coming soon. Imminent.Gary Elsbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-47124853289329478792013-08-08T11:31:19.509+01:002013-08-08T11:31:19.509+01:00The "we" business is tiresome, Gary. How...The "we" business is tiresome, Gary. How many votes did you get on your last outing? Do remember that you speak only for yourself.<br /><br />As per usual I have no clue what you're on about. But for your information, I'm no longer the secretary or an officer of the constituency party you were quite happy to see run down over the course of many years, so you might need someone else to go and play with.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-29579599434645517152013-08-08T11:05:00.268+01:002013-08-08T11:05:00.268+01:00I do apologise Phil.
When I inform you AND warn y...I do apologise Phil.<br /><br />When I inform you AND warn you of impending shit, I do want full and proper recognition for it.<br /><br />I suppose we should all come to terms with you actually knowing what is going on even if we remain puzzled by any lack of public outrage by yourself.<br /><br />Scared of being 'expelled' or 'thrown out'?<br /><br />Fuck me.<br />Not exactly Tollpuddle Martys now is it?<br /><br />Cowards need more shit pumped on them I say.anonymous (Gary Elsby)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-61514351943640673772013-08-08T10:22:32.217+01:002013-08-08T10:22:32.217+01:00Dearest Gary, there is absolutely no need for you ...Dearest Gary, there is absolutely no need for you to pretend anonymity on here. I am a "somewhat knowledgeable man" after all.<br /><br />You also mistake my lack of interest in your ramblings for "lack of knowledge". But do carry on - you've promised me mountains of crap for the last three years and none of it has yet materialised.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-38523671290686167042013-08-08T10:02:01.058+01:002013-08-08T10:02:01.058+01:00I suppose being an educated man doesn't necess...I suppose being an educated man doesn't necessarily mean that you are a knowledgeable man or an informed one.<br />Everything I write is backed up by facts. <br />My opinion that a stitch up via devious methods is a personal one and the closure agenda (2005-present) came squarely from the organiser from the WM who had a desk in the Mayor's office.<br />(opinion based on fact.<br /><br />By the way Phil, imminent shit coming your way BIG TIME.<br /><br />You, a somewhat knowledgeable man will know it was me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-35055819469480973542013-08-06T20:27:35.028+01:002013-08-06T20:27:35.028+01:00Obama has an appalling civil liberties record. He ...Obama has an appalling civil liberties record. He does the things New Labour at its most authoritarian could only dream of.<br /><br />As he will be advising from afar I can't see how the Tories are going to get their money's worth. I really don't.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-70429538589571650272013-08-06T19:21:07.406+01:002013-08-06T19:21:07.406+01:00Messina is, as far as I can tell, not universally ...Messina is, as far as I can tell, not universally welcomed by Tories. Several commentors on ConHome (which is a really good bellweather of right-wing opinion) think anyone linked to Obama must be a hard-line socialist, which is very daft, but it's a view a number of Tories share.<br /><br />I think I'd actually fit in fairly well as a Democrat myself, although I'd have to be a slagger-off of their civil liberties record. But then every elected politician I can think of, Obama and Clegg included, is tragic at that. And even if Miliband was a liberal, how long would he withstand the Alan Johnsons of this world, and whoever it is at the Home Office that constantly demands more?<br /><br />We'll be getting some news out of this gent, however it exactly pans out, it's not the last we've heard of him.asquithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246701347539264295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-87123300041348159342013-08-06T11:46:04.022+01:002013-08-06T11:46:04.022+01:00Scratch that. Gary's overdosed on incomprehens...Scratch that. Gary's overdosed on incomprehensibility.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-87636527572385635502013-08-06T11:42:24.888+01:002013-08-06T11:42:24.888+01:00...and just to prove I didn't take my convenie......and just to prove I didn't take my convenience conspiracy pill this morning, it will be you who will ask if the WM organiser turned up to Stoke six Months prior to a Mayoral victory and then camped in the Mayor's office for a further six months (to show how it is done)(close this close that).<br /><br />Oh and about that bit about trade unionist actually wanting to join the Labour Party? Perish the thought and call in the police, I say! Couldn't make it up if we all tried.<br /><br />..oh and by the way, when the TV cameras turn up this week filming Labour Councillors......you'll know it was me:-)Gary Elsbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-50250338530597219462013-08-06T11:06:35.570+01:002013-08-06T11:06:35.570+01:00Messina will not be finding organisers as his role...Messina will <i>not</i> be finding organisers as his role is strictly advisory. He will not be leaving the US to shack up with Lynton Crosby, so I cannot understand what added value he brings to the Tory camp.<br /><br />While we're talking Tory activists, it seems it's this group of people who among its membership are finding UKIP alluring. Small wonder Crosby is reportedly considering an under-the-radar operation against them.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-83825391752332823482013-08-06T11:03:33.627+01:002013-08-06T11:03:33.627+01:00Of a morning, Gary normally has the choice between...Of a morning, Gary normally has the choice between taking the miserable pill or the bitter pill. Looks like he had both yesterday.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-40720171321872682932013-08-06T09:24:13.356+01:002013-08-06T09:24:13.356+01:00thank you that was an interesting piece of writing...thank you that was an interesting piece of writing, i would counter that if this messina guy is good at finding new organisers ie people who aint in the tory party already then that could be trouble. obviously it will be difficult to find such people but i would nt say impossible.<br /> jq marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-35424939693822414892013-08-05T13:42:21.404+01:002013-08-05T13:42:21.404+01:00Also, anonymous, which of the two parties knows it...Also, anonymous, which of the two parties knows it has already lost the 2015 General Election, and is attempting to dump the Trade Union influence in a new Leadership battle certain to take place?Gary Elsbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-30207036435723764022013-08-05T10:10:14.322+01:002013-08-05T10:10:14.322+01:00I agree that an organiser on the ground works.
The...I agree that an organiser on the ground works.<br />The WM organiser was sent to Stoke to turn the anti elected Mayor view into a winner for a City and party that didn't want one.<br />It worked.<br /><br />Gary Elsbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-74309975280436774512013-08-04T22:09:32.073+01:002013-08-04T22:09:32.073+01:00That's all very well, but you need to explain ...That's all very well, but you need to explain your alternative. For instance, which of the two possible governments has pledged to undo zero hour contracts and reverse changes in the NHS?Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-64712386509941974562013-08-04T21:52:14.339+01:002013-08-04T21:52:14.339+01:00Well I'm not voting Labour. They don't des...Well I'm not voting Labour. They don't deserve it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com