tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post4977973445375137330..comments2024-03-29T07:14:55.029+00:00Comments on All That Is Solid ...: A Terrible Stalinist PurgePhilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-2823874243411725102018-03-25T23:18:56.512+01:002018-03-25T23:18:56.512+01:00George Carty, fair point, imagine how his teeth mu...George Carty, fair point, imagine how his teeth must have been grinding trying to work out whether his enemy's enemy was his friend.Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03710776765139258627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-81415686360838361492018-03-25T10:39:05.384+01:002018-03-25T10:39:05.384+01:00No problem with collective shadow cabinet responsi...No problem with collective shadow cabinet responsibility. <br />Smith was dicing with his job, which he must have known full well.<br />The real issue here is of Labour's shamefully unprincipled, irrational and muddled approach to Brexit. Anyone able to define what a "jobs first brexit" actually means?<br />Smith has taken a principled stand - which is entirely consistent with his strong pro EU position unlike the leader - and laid out an alternative option for the party to consider. <br />I think he's bang on, believing Brexit to be an act of unparalleled national self harm, and I welcome his contribution, which does have widespread support both within the party and our supporters.<br /><br />Steve Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-36419390159837925712018-03-24T22:28:45.481+00:002018-03-24T22:28:45.481+00:00Andy Platt, Owen Smith rebelled against Corbyn in ...Andy Platt, Owen Smith rebelled against Corbyn in the name of opposing Brexit, so John Mann (who unlike Corbyn actually voted Leave) was certainly not going to side with Smith!George Cartyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12170378024031141482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-54624881296549482182018-03-24T18:43:44.028+00:002018-03-24T18:43:44.028+00:00Even John Mann agreed with Smith's sacking, he...Even John Mann agreed with Smith's sacking, he's not exactly a Corbyn superfan.Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03710776765139258627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-65900495860270726342018-03-24T18:40:46.157+00:002018-03-24T18:40:46.157+00:00Tim
Sorry, who does?Tim<br /><br />Sorry, who does?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-30355951207459852452018-03-24T12:43:03.232+00:002018-03-24T12:43:03.232+00:00You make a lot of assertions in your short reply. ...You make a lot of assertions in your short reply. Perhaps we could have some concrete evidence to back them up. Without that they are merely your opinions and no more valid than anybody else's.Tim Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06529446690791247949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-65182935093583210572018-03-24T09:56:12.603+00:002018-03-24T09:56:12.603+00:00^^^^^ what CorbyGran said^^^^^ what CorbyGran saidCleopatra Jenkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10382846988196519436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-52706193055362369402018-03-24T07:42:24.167+00:002018-03-24T07:42:24.167+00:00The identity I choose is that of a Corbyn supporti...The identity I choose is that of a Corbyn supporting Grandma! <br />I think this is a very helpful article and I thank you for it. As you say, Smith is maybe not stupid, but because Corbyn is not combative and gives everyone a fair chance they mistake his fairness for weakness. Then they are shocked when he deploys strength. That is why I favour him for PM. He is kind and tolerant, wise and strong, experienced in the devious ways of government here and internationally. This is his time to shine. Thank you for the analysis and synthesis of his position.CorbyGranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07790551674568598780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-49987199669767703242018-03-24T01:17:36.060+00:002018-03-24T01:17:36.060+00:00You are wrong Phil. Corbyn is an isolationist, wit...You are wrong Phil. Corbyn is an isolationist, without depth, he strangles debate, he risks the destruction of the peace process in NI, a Little Englander, a Populist like Trump and Sanders, not one radical policy<br /><br />best of luck, but he is not an answerjim mcleannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-43823092084242354792018-03-24T00:38:07.163+00:002018-03-24T00:38:07.163+00:00Thank you for your considered assessment of this s...Thank you for your considered assessment of this situation. It contrasts favourably with the ludicrous remarks on the Notes From a Broken Society blog, which consists of a futile attempt to "big" Owen Smith up. I endorse your comments entirely. It is highly indicative of our current situation that , as ever, JC is acting as the only politician in the room. He has the full measure of the situation, and knows just when to strike. Keir Starmers' Six Tests are sufficient guide, and with patience, can see us through. Owen is simply comforting the Tories.Karl Greenallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07156805807981796175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-14105064244629935992018-03-23T23:56:53.732+00:002018-03-23T23:56:53.732+00:00"If he wanted that debate there was ample spa...<i>"If he wanted that debate there was ample space in shadow cabinet to argue for it. Owen is not a stupid man, he does know this."</i><br /><br />He's not stupid, but his trouble is that he's nowhere near as clever as he likes to imagine. Nor are the people around him less clever than he actually is, although he believes otherwise.<br /><br />Those of us familiar with the Machiavelli of the Vales knew Smith's career was going to come to this before long: a transparent attempt to plant his rebel flag in the Brexit chasm, followed by a headlong plunge into its depths, with Corbyn's bootprint glowing on his arse.<br /><br />But he'll be back. Owen Smith's idea of the rightful destiny of Owen Smith will brook no contradiction, not even that of reality itself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com