tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post3772199175604488785..comments2024-03-27T09:14:27.496+00:00Comments on All That Is Solid ...: A Note on the NEC VotePhilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-76664855263071673432016-09-29T17:13:28.529+01:002016-09-29T17:13:28.529+01:00No (obviously) asquith, he is just a thoroughly de...No (obviously) asquith, he is just a thoroughly decent bloke who is playing with thieves, wolves and liars.<br /><br />The old adage, you can't cuddle a Tiger springs to mind.<br /><br />But one thing is for sure, as soon as Corbyn goes there will be no token leftist on that ballot anymore. They will not make that mistake again and for that they can thank Corbyn.BCFGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-39585605096903344582016-09-29T11:17:14.820+01:002016-09-29T11:17:14.820+01:00«How did the Labour Party acquire this dog's d...«How did the Labour Party acquire this dog's dinner of a constitution? Composite motions?»<br /><br />Many many years of fight between mandelsonians and the unions, with members up to 2015 largely passive. The fight between mandelsonians and the unions was whether business donors like Lord Sainsbury would "support" the party or union donors would "support" the party.<br /><br />In other words the outcome of the long time difference reported by Lance Price in a summary of a New Labour strategy meeting on 1999-10-19:<br /><br />«Philip Gould analysed our problem very clearly. We don’t know what we are. Gordon wants us to be a radical progressive, movement, but wants us to keep our heads down on Europe. Peter [Mandelson] thinks that we are a quasi-Conservative Party but that we should stick our necks out on Europe.»<br /><br />Obviously a «quasi-Conservative Party» wants to get rid of the "support" of the unions.<br />Blissexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-30252883698878876802016-09-28T19:50:26.147+01:002016-09-28T19:50:26.147+01:00Is he a capitalist-roader then, BCFG? A running do...Is he a capitalist-roader then, BCFG? A running dog? A Zionist, even?asquithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14246701347539264295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-79243984616090087612016-09-28T17:01:19.451+01:002016-09-28T17:01:19.451+01:00For centrists like Tom Watson and Sadiq khan the d...For centrists like Tom Watson and Sadiq khan the definition of unity is to empower themselves and disenfranchise the members, classic New Labourism in other words. Corbyn and his supporters must come up with their own definition, unity must mean giving power to the members and dis-empowering the PLP, including mass deselection.<br /><br />If Corbyn fails to address this then all his words will be meaningless.<br /><br />In fact if Corbyn fails to deal with this then Corbyn's legacy will be to destroy the left within Labour forever.<br /><br />Corbyn was put on the leadership ballot purely as a token gesture, to give some truth to the lie that New Labour was a broad church. They never expected him to win and would never have put him on the ballot if they believed he would have a chance.<br /><br />As soon as the next leadership election comes round no left leaning candidate will be on that list and will not be on any list ever again. At this point there will be no, absolutely no argument for leftists to support the Labour party.<br /><br />Corbyn's role will have been to act like one of those undercover reporters who goes into an airport and uncovers security lapses, embarrassing for the airport but also doing them a favour by showing the holes in security. Corbyn will have shown New labour its own security problems and the centrists will ensure those problems will never surface again.<br /><br />This, I fear, will be Corbyn's disastrous legacy.<br /><br />If Corbyn does take on the centrists (and its a big if given what I have heard so far) then for the first time in decades we stand a chance of real progress, real choice and having a real voice.<br /><br />Corbyn's supporters have to see the urgency of defeating the centrist enemy. If they do not defeat them all they will have achieved is doing them a massive favour! They may as well wear I love Tony Blair t-shirts.BCFGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-25801855323799308122016-09-28T12:12:47.865+01:002016-09-28T12:12:47.865+01:00Robert Michels would be having a field day.Robert Michels would be having a field day.Igor Belanovnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-22617170876426521192016-09-28T09:48:13.761+01:002016-09-28T09:48:13.761+01:00How did the Labour Party acquire this dog's di...How did the Labour Party acquire this dog's dinner of a constitution?<br />Composite motions?johnny conspiranoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16999152579310845736noreply@blogger.com