tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post3644585861565871813..comments2024-03-19T09:00:56.265+00:00Comments on All That Is Solid ...: Debunking the YetiPhilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-82738084369898167422016-06-11T14:12:24.619+01:002016-06-11T14:12:24.619+01:00Poor old Yeti. When I was a kid we had a book in t...Poor old Yeti. When I was a kid we had a book in the house called <i>Mysteries of the Unexplained</i>. It made no attempt to explain the mysteries. I loved it, but as a result of reading it, I also spent years being terrified of spontaneous human combustion. I still have a fondness for documentaries about Bigfoot and other cryptozoids. I find them most fascinating as cultural phenomenons. Eliza_Mariahhttps://purpleprosearchive.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-27795068449352585842016-05-30T10:58:04.872+01:002016-05-30T10:58:04.872+01:00and one more point: on EPAS1 you cite a study from...and one more point: on EPAS1 you cite a study from 2010, the Denisovan study is from three years later, 2014.<br />And here is the decisive bit about the "science bit", which is not covered by the 2010 study:<br />"Re-sequencing the region around EPAS1 in 40 Tibetan and 40 Han individuals, we find that this gene has a highly unusual haplotype structure that can only be convincingly explained by introgression of DNA from Denisovan or Denisovan-related individuals into humans. Scanning a larger set of worldwide populations, we find that the selected haplotype is only found in Denisovans and in Tibetans, and at very low frequency among Han Chinese."<br />That modern human indeed interbred with Denisovans has been shown on several occassions, last time this year, see: http://www.sci-news.com/othersciences/anthropology/denisovan-dna-modern-day-melanesians-03713.html <br />You see, the story is more complex than a 1 hour Channel 4 docu..;-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11499710675316836070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-1861995283482318352016-05-30T09:53:15.545+01:002016-05-30T09:53:15.545+01:00Exactly, case not closed. EVERY "old school&q...Exactly, case not closed. EVERY "old school" anthropologist would have argued - just 12 years ago - that there are no more archaic humans to be found from the last 40,000 years. Now we have new hominins in every corner of Eurasia: the Denisovans, Flores Man, Red Deer Cave people. No doubt they will find even more. The human family tree gets bigger and bigger, we now know that we interbred with Neanderthals and Denisovans, Denisovans with a yet unknown even more archaic population and modern sub-Saharan Africans with a yet unknown archaic human that survived at least until 30,000 years ago (we now know that from DNA studies of modern African populations). Perhaps all of these humans survived into the Holocene and are the reasons for the origin of "yeti myths". Well, I have no doubt considerung the relatively low environmental impact of modern humans due to their low population densities in most parts of the world until antiquity or even later.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11499710675316836070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-64977499862336863632016-05-29T23:55:39.333+01:002016-05-29T23:55:39.333+01:00I dunno. Remember that the giant squid and the pan...I dunno. Remember that the giant squid and the panda were mythological animals until fairly recently (20th century for the latter, 19th for the former). Proving that supposed yeti 'relics' are from other animals doesn't disprove the existence of the yeti itself. All that can be said is that those relics are from known animals. I've no opinion on the yeti, but closing the book based on the viewing of this programme is premature to say the least. (There's also a considerable degree of cognitive dissonance in using the DNA of human relatives who were unknown to science until a few years ago -- and only identified by the discovery of three teeth alone -- to argue for the non-existence of another human relative!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com