tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post3626630132281573526..comments2024-03-27T09:14:27.496+00:00Comments on All That Is Solid ...: Keir Starmer's BeerGate GamblePhilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-39139555652229647612022-05-11T06:26:49.719+01:002022-05-11T06:26:49.719+01:00Apart from Starmer's ineptitude in all this - ...Apart from Starmer's ineptitude in all this - for as Zoltan says, he shouldn't have got into this mess - I don't understand why it was first denied that Rayner was there, only to be later admitted that she was? That, in itself, makes Starmer's defence look very suspicious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-339888399797689292022-05-11T00:56:44.859+01:002022-05-11T00:56:44.859+01:00Lots of people bent/broke the Covid rules here and...Lots of people bent/broke the Covid rules here and there, sometimes if not always knowingly.<br /><br />Rather fewer drove a coach and horses through them, repeatedly, in the way Johnson and his colleagues/staff did.<br /><br />That's a significant difference, and one that many people instinctively understand (as polling confirms)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-56536463908724917452022-05-10T13:03:36.909+01:002022-05-10T13:03:36.909+01:00Its neither a massive gamble nor a cheap stunt. I...Its neither a massive gamble nor a cheap stunt. It seems a sensible response to a difficult position. The risk is low, as were the police to fine him he would have to resign, realistically. So, by saying he will he challenges Johnson to respond. It's a sensible move, but nothing more. It seems unlikely he will be fined, and equally unlikely that Johnson will respond other than with bluster and obfuscation. So, low risk, but also won't win over many people as a "principled" stand. I suspect most will think, as I do, that he should never have got himself into this position. However you try to spin in, a group of people having beer and a curry at night doesn't really look like work. He must have known that it could come out, and how it would be seized on by the Tory press. And he must have known that when he demanded Johnson's resignation for the parties. Of course it isn't really equivalent, but the look is not a good one, and it does undermine their position. So, whoever his minder is, they haven't done much of a job. Zoltan Jorovicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-73620247478466486642022-05-10T11:48:22.082+01:002022-05-10T11:48:22.082+01:00Quite correct, Alan Story. Since the Durham polic...Quite correct, Alan Story. Since the Durham police do not appear to EVER issue retrospective fines for Covid rule breaches, this is indeed simply a transparently obvious cynical stunt. The pro Tory press , like the Daily Mail, have pointed this out constantly since Starmer's staged 'Statement' to the dim and supine journalists at his press conference. The willingness of most journalists to go along with Starmer's " I'm just such a man of total integrity" pose, as yet, tells you a lot about the MSM's careful coddling of Labour's 'Man from the Deep State and Trilateral Commission', since his candidature and victory in Labour's Leadership contest , after their constant negative storyline, reputational lynching of Corbyn over a four year period. No awkward questions from the journalists present about the supposed 'man of integrity' Starmer's utterly lying 'offer' to the Labour Membership in 2019 , with his bogus 'Ten Pledges' . Or indeed any detail questions about the pre-advertised 'takeaway and booze' event that Starmer and Raynor blatantly participated in with a large gathering of local Party hacks. <br /><br />Unfortunately for Starmer, come the next General Election, and that super-gentle MSM treatment will be dropped overnight , and they will, to use the American vernacular, "rip him a new asshole" , in their vicious treatment of the most pompous and wooden , and vote-winning ideas-lacking, Leader Labour has ever had. That younger self , neo-Trotskyist, pseudo socialist , past, and his collaboration as DPP in letting Jimmy Saville escape justice, and innumerable other radical statements in his opportunist pseudo Lefty youth, hasn't actually been forgotten by the MSM. They are just keeping their powder dry. Old Trotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-12386560318542507862022-05-09T20:59:46.209+01:002022-05-09T20:59:46.209+01:00MASSIVE GAMBLE? or CHEAP STUNT ?
Chris Mason to...MASSIVE GAMBLE? or CHEAP STUNT ? <br /> <br />Chris Mason today became BBC political editor…and has flunked his first assignment. <br /><br />Mason says Starmer is taking a “massive gamble” by agreeing to resign as Labour leader if he receives a fixed penalty fine over so-called “beergate.” <br /><br />There is only one problem. It is NOT the practice of Durham police to issue retrospective fixed penalty notices related to Covid. <br /><br />Remember Dominic Cummings? He was never fined for his Barnard Castle caper. <br /><br />Is Starmer really taking a “massive gamble”? Or is it simply a cheap stunt to fool the gullible? <br /><br />I know what my answer is. <br /> <br />Alan Storyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12376535889666675344noreply@blogger.com