tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post2874770538075545087..comments2024-03-18T19:21:49.666+00:00Comments on All That Is Solid ...: Against the OddsPhilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-18191692448413906882009-11-17T19:43:06.804+00:002009-11-17T19:43:06.804+00:00Yes its very stirring, but it leaves me slightly a...Yes its very stirring, but it leaves me slightly angry that 12 years of Labour hasn't achieved more.<br /><br />To most people who are interested in their jobs and family they are going to compare the foundation of the NHS with Quantitative easing (if they've heard of it) and come away disillusioned.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-20369580544753066822009-11-16T21:03:53.185+00:002009-11-16T21:03:53.185+00:00Yes, good among Labour-loyal and/or committed trad...Yes, good among Labour-loyal and/or committed trade unionists. Not much good for floating voters, never mind those who've been driven away from Labour.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-39623614468087972492009-11-16T16:16:10.567+00:002009-11-16T16:16:10.567+00:00I think it is good.
I know it got as very positiv...I think it is good.<br /><br />I know it got as very positive reception among the GMB delegation at conference.andy newmanhttp://www.socialistunity.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-69114242068289505892009-11-16T14:26:22.786+00:002009-11-16T14:26:22.786+00:00I was going to comment sadonically and slightly wi...I was going to comment sadonically and slightly wistfully. But I'm a Labour party member, and therefore can't bring myself to just yet. I'll recover my bonhomie later, probably.Paulhttp://www.bickerstafferecord.org.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-46869021994480675002009-11-16T14:02:30.142+00:002009-11-16T14:02:30.142+00:00Yeah, that made me laugh too about New Labour list...Yeah, that made me laugh too about New Labour listening to the grassroots. Erm, if they were interested in listening to the grassroots then they would re-establish LP democracy, debate at conference, stop parachuting NL clones into constituencies....<br /><br />I am sure Keir Hardie would be spinning in his grave seeing that shite of a broadcast. Oh, and what was all that re NHS/welfare state when they want to privatise it and contract it out to the private sector.<br /><br />And late last wk it was death knell of income support, an important and vital welfare benefit, as NL has abolished it in the new Welfare Reform Act, which contains harsh conditionality, penalisation, sanctions and further misery.<br /><br />NL has shafted it's own grassroot members and core voters so much that it simply hasn't got a fecking clue how to re-connect with them and whether NL actually wants to.HarpyMarxhttp://harpymarx.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-41686303335289629802009-11-16T13:46:10.779+00:002009-11-16T13:46:10.779+00:00This is a terrible idea, and does nothing more tha...This is a terrible idea, and does nothing more than reinforce how out of touch the Labour Party High Heid Yins are. Voters couldn’t care less about the history of the Labour Party, what they care about is job security and the future of their children. The few floating voters who watch this will be totally switched off, the Labour supporters who watch this will think, “NHS, yes that was a good idea, but what the hell have you done recently that reflects our values?”<br />As for this being a grassroots campaign, well that’s just a joke. How is an Internet petition originating in France and signed by nonparty members grassroots?<br />Or is it just that the Labour Party have no money left, so they’ll stick any old bit of video on the telly cause it’s cheaper that way?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-70690380806204275772009-11-16T13:16:25.684+00:002009-11-16T13:16:25.684+00:00I doubt it will go out as it is. I'm guessing ...I doubt it will go out as it is. I'm guessing it will be remixed and bits added on.Michael Wincotthttp://www.michaelwincott.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-41140999335377751592009-11-16T13:08:58.163+00:002009-11-16T13:08:58.163+00:00Does anyone except the party fiathful watch PPBs?Does anyone except the party fiathful watch PPBs?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-42764339598395103452009-11-16T13:03:17.499+00:002009-11-16T13:03:17.499+00:00What tickles me is the New Statesman are reporting...What tickles me is the New Statesman are reporting an apparatchik as saying this is evidence the leadership are listening to the grassroots. As if actioning a petition backing an insultingly bad PPB is evidence of inner party democracy.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-80345871308315105372009-11-16T12:42:47.667+00:002009-11-16T12:42:47.667+00:00Yes, just spotted at 1.05. Worried he's been r...Yes, just spotted at 1.05. Worried he's been replaced by a pot plant.PhilChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04275653170412874271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-10019119851270863572009-11-16T12:39:37.804+00:002009-11-16T12:39:37.804+00:00He's in there in some black and white footage,...He's in there in some black and white footage, marching. A much more dynamic image than the shambling one he conveyed while Labour leader.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-204111131670843962009-11-16T12:35:28.978+00:002009-11-16T12:35:28.978+00:00Did I miss it or has Michael Foot been wiped from ...Did I miss it or has Michael Foot been wiped from the montage of Labour leaders?PhilChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04275653170412874271noreply@blogger.com