tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post2341841351278040159..comments2024-03-29T09:14:53.583+00:00Comments on All That Is Solid ...: Marx and Foucault: Some ConclusionsPhilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-81161903388540475552009-10-24T15:39:57.222+01:002009-10-24T15:39:57.222+01:00Yeah, maybe that is quite possible.
Okies thanks,...Yeah, maybe that is quite possible.<br /><br />Okies thanks, I will have a look.<br /><br />Thanks for your help.JaneWatkinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08447234015122932992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-32920079923304166022009-10-24T15:34:24.274+01:002009-10-24T15:34:24.274+01:00Maybe the authors of the book are making a pitch f...Maybe the authors of the book are making a pitch for the psychiatric industry. Sounds like it!<br /><br />There will be other Foucault-related literature that's worth looking at that might help clear things up. <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Understanding-Foucault-Geoff-Danaher/dp/0761968164" rel="nofollow">Understanding Foucault</a> is not a bad place to begin. If memory serves they go through each of his books and illustrate with contemporary examples.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-18281284814128184032009-10-24T14:50:02.521+01:002009-10-24T14:50:02.521+01:00Yeah, I can see what you mean.
Well it is called,...Yeah, I can see what you mean.<br /><br />Well it is called, Health and Wellbeing: A Reader. It said that the changes in the (20th have lead the medical gaze to take into account the pyschosocial space now, and that this is a good thing and so that power is not repressive as people claim.<br /><br />Confused lol.JaneWatkinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08447234015122932992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-63179020028298282512009-10-24T14:23:57.328+01:002009-10-24T14:23:57.328+01:00Because Foucault was quite a slippery character an...Because Foucault was quite a slippery character and, as a general rule, did not rigorously define his concepts (unlike Althusser and Bourdieu to name but two) there is always wriggle room for differing interpretations.<br /><br />What was the book that made this argument?Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-79806208465242395822009-10-24T13:58:37.630+01:002009-10-24T13:58:37.630+01:00Thanks for the reply.
I haven't read Discipli...Thanks for the reply.<br /><br />I haven't read Discipline and Punish, but i can see where you are coming from. <br /><br />I can see what you mean in regards to the clincal/medical gaze, in terms of morality i am just a little confused as i read in a book that focault saw medicalisation as a good thing because of this. It is all a bit confusing lol.<br /><br />Thanks again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-54270799648199732082009-10-23T19:54:39.964+01:002009-10-23T19:54:39.964+01:00Unfortunately, I never got round to reading The Bi...Unfortunately, I never got round to reading The Birth of the Clinic (have you read this yourself?) So there's not a lot I can say really.<br /><br />But, knowing what a slippery character Foucault can be, I would hazard a guess that the morality of the move from the clinical to the medical gaze is something he would not have discussed. <br /><br />Have you seen the opening to Discipline and Punish? I rather gory execution is counterposed to the regimen of a prison. What Foucault was trying to capture here was a shift in technologies of the body and how power managed them differently. In the first case, the sovereign power (body) protects itself by obliterating the bodies of others (which is why many medieval and absolutist regimes still hung, drew and quartered people even if they were dead before their "execution"). The prison system however is a symptom of a shift in power to where it concerns itself with managing and disciplining those that transgress society's laws.<br /><br />For Foucault morality doesn't enter into it, he's merely marking the shift from one mode of power to another. I suspect Foucault's doing the same with the clinical gaze. The medical gaze represents a new set of "visual technologies", of a new regime of what Foucault would later call power/knowledge.<br /><br />I hope this is of help?Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-54877605303445513622009-10-23T18:58:32.550+01:002009-10-23T18:58:32.550+01:00Hi, I am reading about Foucault recently in relati...Hi, I am reading about Foucault recently in relation to medicalization and i was just wondering if i could ask you a question about it as you seem pretty good at Foucault lol.<br /><br />Basically, i am reading conflicting views arounds around his medical/clinical gaze. I read that the clinical gaze was the initial gaze, and this evolved to a clinical gaze in recent times as there is new technology to look within bodies. Is that right, or are they interchangeable concepts?<br /><br />I read that the medical gaze represented a move towards taking the social psychological space into account and that he saw this medical gaze as a good thing? So would that support the analysis that the medical gaze is later development in society, and so a good development in medicine?<br /><br />Am i right, or have i got this all wrong lol?<br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />JaneJane Watkinsonhttp://myliberaldemocratpoliticalramblings.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-33717061768942805222009-10-18T19:56:23.039+01:002009-10-18T19:56:23.039+01:00Context is everything Jim. It was made quite clear...Context is everything Jim. It was made quite clear these are posts from a seven year old dissertation, back when I considered myself an Althusserian of sorts. I don't now but I still think he had some very interesting things to say. He might have turned out to have been a very disturbed individual, but so what? From an AWoL point of view, does Shachtman's support for the Bay of Pigs invalidate all his earlier writings for all time? Of course not.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-17887017672908221432009-10-10T23:28:00.860+01:002009-10-10T23:28:00.860+01:00lol!lol!Dylanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09256388913594034925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-35313711456324678722009-10-10T21:15:08.366+01:002009-10-10T21:15:08.366+01:00"...how this could be facilitated by Althusse..."...how this could be facilitated by Althusser."<br /><br />Althusser: Oh dear. Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. I had a horrible preminition that it would come to this. <br /><br />You start with taking Foucault seriously, and you end up...murdering your wife and writing pretentious bollocks...<br /><br />Fucking base and superstructure, indeed!Jim Denhamhttp://shirazsocialist.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com