tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post1527176026657032001..comments2024-03-29T09:14:53.583+00:00Comments on All That Is Solid ...: Damned Lies and Election LeafletsPhilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-20784020280247722852010-11-09T08:55:19.239+00:002010-11-09T08:55:19.239+00:00I see the blog as highlighting Woolas as being mor...I see the blog as highlighting Woolas as being more guilty than most because of his Blairite link.<br />I thought that weakened the blog as it seems to suggest that anything other than Blairite is more acceptable and has less guilt.<br />I point out that Woolas bucked the trend that removed a Mayor.<br />I tire of the hard left wishing sainthood bestowed upon it by its own.Gary Elsbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-87070061863248376852010-11-08T18:56:07.742+00:002010-11-08T18:56:07.742+00:00And that has what to do with the post Gary?And that has what to do with the post Gary?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-63306726131916128832010-11-08T08:59:25.088+00:002010-11-08T08:59:25.088+00:00Incidentally, when Democracy 4 Stoke collected 10...Incidentally, when Democracy 4 Stoke collected 10,000 signatures as a view of the Stoke electorate to force a referendum on the Elected Mayor, it was Phil Woolas that recieved the travelling party that handed the petition over.<br /><br />There was nothing in the British elctoral constitution that allows a referendum on a current serving Mayor.<br /><br />When the party arrived back in Stoke, the Meredith crew satrted their ussual tactic of dismissing everything. The word doing the rounds was that as the D4S party closed the door behind them, Woolas "Binned the 10,000 strong petition" as a 'F*** YOU!'<br /><br />Stoke-on-Trent was allowed a referendum and the Elected Mayor was booted out.Gary Elsbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-90575981369294230552010-11-08T08:53:45.553+00:002010-11-08T08:53:45.553+00:00I was up for selection in Crewe both times.
On the...I was up for selection in Crewe both times.<br />On the first attempt, I was told by Guido Fawkes (yep) that I was mad because the candidate was already chosen a Month before the selection day. I said "impossible, this is Labour not your lot".<br />Guido then sent me photos of the 'winner' and house and pet dog etc... She was selected.<br /><br />On the second time I attempted, I turned up to both evenings only to be told that it was yest another put up job and: "That person over there has already won" (other potential candidates explained what was going on).<br />I pulled out and he won the candidacy.<br /><br />Pure bent politics designed to corrupt OMOV and democracy itself.<br />This from Labour? I expect it from the Tories but not from Labour.<br /><br />I now expect it from Labour, because I have witnessed it twice from a near distance and witnessed it once from near.Gary Elsbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-84488055262360188762010-11-07T14:19:57.027+00:002010-11-07T14:19:57.027+00:00I do not know. I hope there are some decent Labour...I do not know. I hope there are some decent Labourites in Oldham that refused, but I've about as much knowledge of the local CLP as you have. <br /><br />Crewe was utterly shameful. A referendum on an unpopular government made worse by the wrong choice for candidate and a ridiculous campaign. I wasn't a member at the time, but if I was I'd have said we deserved to losePhilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-52856916869646181232010-11-07T13:31:49.559+00:002010-11-07T13:31:49.559+00:00This was not the only time that Labour has critici...This was not the only time that Labour has criticised its opponents from the right over immigration in election flyers; I recall some nasty things in the Crewe by-election last year. <br /><br />Surely Woolas didn't write and produce this awful flyer by himself; there must be people in the local party who helped him to produce and distribute it. I know Labour members who would refuse to distribute such material were it produced for their prospective MP; did any members in Oldham dissociate themselves from this?<br /><br />Dr PaulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-82108876291052030602010-11-07T13:24:09.896+00:002010-11-07T13:24:09.896+00:00While I remember, Paul from Though Cowards Flinch ...While I remember, Paul from Though Cowards Flinch has thrown his hat into the Oldham East wing. His pitch can be read <a href="http://thoughcowardsflinch.com/2010/11/05/throwing-my-hat-in-the-oldham-east-ring/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-78937745765020117202010-11-07T13:22:59.095+00:002010-11-07T13:22:59.095+00:00TGR, there are many sections of the party what wil...TGR, there are many sections of the party what will say and do anything to get elected. That alone makes them unfit for office IMO.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-61444699289458180322010-11-07T13:22:02.418+00:002010-11-07T13:22:02.418+00:00I agree with that Lobby, Woolas should have been e...I agree with that Lobby, Woolas should have been expelled long before this came to a special election court. But even he deserves the benefit of due process.<br /><br />As for whether there's a means of getting rid of his supporters ... seeing as most of them occupy powerful positions in the party that doesn't look like a go-er for the moment. But the speed at which Harman moved to suspend him indicates a leadership desperate not to be tarred with the bigoted brush - even though they're the ones that facilitated it in the first place.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-2333866837263811922010-11-06T18:37:08.225+00:002010-11-06T18:37:08.225+00:00Phil, I'm sure you are right about the suspens...Phil, I'm sure you are right about the suspension - presumption of innocence and all that. However, his behaviour and propaganda at the last (and other?) election does not need the judgement of a special court for the Labour Party to understand that he is not fit to be a member, let alone shadow minister of the party.<br /><br />That he was appointed as a (junior) shadow minister in the face of his foul political behaviour (tested in law or not) puts the leadership of the party, rightly, in a very bad light.<br /><br />I assume with the ousting of Woolas there will also be a purge of his co-workers in the local party. Ha! If not done locally will any other part of the party drum out these people?Lobby Luddnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-71555916729236205932010-11-06T15:49:39.393+00:002010-11-06T15:49:39.393+00:00Frankly some of those leaflets were the kind of th...Frankly some of those leaflets were the kind of thing you'd expect from the BNP. What a total disgrace. <br /><br />OT: Apparently, this is a good site for the co-ordiantion of anti-cuts campaigns.<br /><br />http://anticuts.org.uk/Robertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-28038506365943403252010-11-06T00:24:27.864+00:002010-11-06T00:24:27.864+00:00The election will be interesting, Lib Dems will ha...The election will be interesting, Lib Dems will hate it, Tories....well...and Labour...what can they do? <br /><br />Get a solid Left candidate and not another New Labour Zombie...put distance between them and the Tories (a difficult task for NL)and hope..modernityhttp://modernityblog.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.com