tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post1073122438479410057..comments2024-03-27T09:14:27.496+00:00Comments on All That Is Solid ...: Andrew Fisher: It's Not About Rule-BreakingPhilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-55308902514989520272015-11-07T17:37:32.772+00:002015-11-07T17:37:32.772+00:00As I just tweeted at you. Emily Benn pretty much e...As I just tweeted at you. Emily Benn pretty much endorsed Sandi Toksvig's party. So yes there is no fairness in applying 'rules'.<br /><br />However your skating over the appointment of Milne as PR and policy chief ignores the very real worries from many, many comrades about his influence that have nothing to do with 'undermining Corbyn'.paulocanninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17499916652508144662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-66781268061514904172015-11-07T11:39:33.780+00:002015-11-07T11:39:33.780+00:00I agree with the thrust of this, but I think I als...I agree with the thrust of this, but I think I also want the leader of the Labour Party to make wise choices in who he listens to. And Andrew's foul and abusive tweet to Simon Danzcuk suggests that he isn't a wise appointment. Being unwisely appointed isn't a disciplinary offence of course.SpiritSkillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12225172385830110611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-8594644887430346542015-11-07T11:27:28.688+00:002015-11-07T11:27:28.688+00:00Jim Mcmahon may not be an overt left-winger, but h...Jim Mcmahon may not be an overt left-winger, but he is certainly no right-winger either. He has said publicly that his views are very close to those of Jeremy Corbyn in key areas and isn't afraid to use the word socialist in his tweets. He romped home because he is a very well-known and highly-respected council leader who has done a lot for his town in a short time.Perpetuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01214396019726161983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-9318942290567681272015-11-07T10:06:26.384+00:002015-11-07T10:06:26.384+00:00The odious Frank Field also recently spoke about r...The odious Frank Field also recently spoke about right-wing (why is it that the media also refer to them as "moderate"?) Labour MP's could band together and support any of their ilk who were deselected, who then stood as Independents.<br /><br />The party couldn't expel all of them, he argued. Want a bet? The right-wing ha no compunction against such wholesale expulsions, and closures of entire CLP's. Its large numbers of rank and file members that a real party cannot do without out, not a comparative handful of troublesome right-wing MP's. A party of more than half a million supported by the trades unions will always be able to find all the talented candidates it requires.<br /><br />Notable that, for all the right-wing, and Blair-right claims over the last few months, both before and after his election, none of them are pointing to any collapse of Labour's standing in the opinion polls. That's because it hasn't happened.<br /><br />But, Corbyn needs to learn from the lesson of Foot in the 1980's, and of Syriza more recently. Instead of being distracted on to internal discussions and fights, he needs to start big external campaigns to continue the momentum, mobilise the new supporters brought in by turning the part at rank and file level outwards. He should organise a series of big demos and events against the Welfare Cuts and so on, which he can physically spearhead.Boffyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08157650969929097569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-81637258769450290672015-11-07T09:26:04.370+00:002015-11-07T09:26:04.370+00:00I think that's right - it's a win-win for ...I think that's right - it's a win-win for these people: either weaken Corbyn or make Labour less popular under Corbyn. Spies, wreckers and saboteurs, as an old comrade of mine was wont to growl.<br /><br />Good job Emily Benn's never tweeted in support of another party, <a href="http://insidecroydon.com/2015/10/25/benns-attempt-at-labour-purge-highlights-her-support-for-wep/" rel="nofollow">eh readers</a>?Phlihttp://gapingsilence.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-86307511989540451072015-11-07T09:19:20.842+00:002015-11-07T09:19:20.842+00:00Chris, the Labour membership voted for mainstream ...Chris, the Labour membership voted for mainstream candidates in the majority. That doesn't suggest to me that there is any imbalance. <br /><br />I'd also add that there has been no issue with some of Corbyn's appointments: Neale Coleman, Katy Clark, etc for example because they haven't been unsuitable appointees. Corbyn needs to exercise better judgement. There are lots of people to choose from that haven't endorsed rival parties and rejoiced in Labour MPs losing.Rowan Draperhttp://www.rowandraper.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4486641877026778105.post-34446088870105087522015-11-06T23:30:01.933+00:002015-11-06T23:30:01.933+00:00"The last thing they want is Jeremy to turn t..."The last thing they want is Jeremy to turn that polling deficit into a lead, for Labour under his leadership to start appearing successful."<br /><br />Blair said as much himself, he'd rather lose than win on a left wing platform. The left need to urgently identify and coach left candidates so as to address the imbalance between the Party membership's politics and those of the Parliamentary Party.<br /><br />It looks like we're settling in to PLP trench warfare. Time for the circular firing squads again...*sigh*Stokeyblokeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16621161914552995569noreply@blogger.com